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4:34 pm:<LS_Bill> check your session setup.
4:34 pm:<tuna_> and sometimes it locks up where i cant get at the main window
4:34 pm:<LS_Bill> could be the time zone is wrong and IRT thinks the session is closed
4:35 pm:<krunch12b> yep, having problems with volume profile charts inparticular with that
4:35 pm:<LS_Bill> tuna, I think there may be an issue with some "message boxes" prompting for Ok or Cancel having to do with floating windows.
4:35 pm:<krunch12b> but I am useing a display software different than just windows
4:36 pm:<tuna_> yes bill thats what i think too
4:36 pm:<krunch12b> but they dont come back to center when I turn it off
4:36 pm:<LS_Bill> the message box issue is one of the fixes I have completed for 8.3 Revision 1 coming soon
4:37 pm:<tuna_> cool
4:37 pm:<krunch12b> hay bill check this out http://www.buttontrader.com/index.asp?page=8
4:37 pm:<tuna_> thx bill
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4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> seems like a nice tutorial
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4:39 pm:<krunch12b> go down and click on simulator
4:41 pm:<arno> Jay - does DTN provide intraday volume for indexes? INDU.X, COMPX.X and SPX.XO?
4:41 pm:<arno> I don't seem to be seeing any intraday vol/
4:42 pm:<Jay_DTN> These indexes don't provide volume information (the exchange/Dow Jones)
4:42 pm:<arno> do u know which DTN symbol does?
4:43 pm:<Jay_DTN> Most indexes don't have volume. Any issues that have volume sent from the exchange we would carry (such as electronic futures, stocks, etc)
4:43 pm:<arno> ok
4:43 pm:<Mike> hi all
4:43 pm:<Jay_DTN> INDU.X does carry intraday volume, but not with each update.. it is cumulative volume, not a "Trade Volume"
4:44 pm:<arno> right
4:44 pm:<arno> thanks
4:44 pm:<krunch12b> anyway would be nice if tpo chart were armed to just be able to click on letter row and send order to broker
4:44 pm:<Daniel> ideed
4:44 pm:<Daniel> indeed*
4:45 pm:<krunch12b> with adjustable stops, targets
4:45 pm:<Daniel> :P
4:45 pm:<LS_Bill> chad and I have not yet discussed trading order integration in TPO charts
4:46 pm:<krunch12b> well, something to think about anyway
4:46 pm:<LS_Bill> we could enable "chart buttons" in TPO much like they appear in traditional charts
4:46 pm:<Mike> regarding Trading order, I have big problem with limit orders beign left open in Autotrader all day? Jerry can fix that I belive but I have not been able to communicate with him at all. So I am stuck.
4:47 pm:<LS_Bill> now if you click on a letter, how would IRT know what kind of order you wanted to place?
4:47 pm:<Daniel> yes
4:47 pm:<LS_Bill> I think AutoTrader's position on this is that you are responsible for that Mike.
4:47 pm:<Daniel> what ever Ninja is t to it will execute
4:48 pm:<krunch12b> guess you would have to have a programable button that auto enters limit, stop, or stop limit orders, or market orders held till market trades there
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> yes Daniel, for buttons, each button has a trading order associated with it
4:48 pm:<Daniel> right click on letter with be different order if center click
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> buttons can do all that
4:48 pm:<Daniel> will*
4:48 pm:<krunch12b> cool
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> buttons are traditional chart only right now
4:48 pm:<Daniel> yeah
4:48 pm:<LS_Chad> a click on a price would bring up a popup menu with several order options
4:48 pm:<krunch12b> just something to enter orders and stops and targets
4:48 pm:<krunch12b> lol
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> what you can do is create a traditional chart window with all your trading buttons
4:49 pm:<LS_Bill> and make it slim
4:49 pm:<Daniel> yeah I know..tried that
4:50 pm:<Daniel> except I need different acct #s
4:50 pm:<krunch12b> visual representation so ya dont have to look up the price and then enter it takes to much time sometimes
4:50 pm:<krunch12b> well, if ya had different accounts that would be much more complex
4:51 pm:<Daniel> I want to be able to click on a button and send the same order to all accounts
4:51 pm:<Daniel> right from a TPO chart left pane
4:51 pm:<Daniel> all filled same time and stop and target the same...move a stop and all adjust
4:51 pm:<Mike> you here?
4:52 pm:<Mike> lol woops sorry
4:52 pm:<krunch12b> I am sure there are several different approaches that would work well.
4:52 pm:<Daniel> Bill can this be done IRT< > NT5?
4:52 pm:<krunch12b> I am verry impressed with the volume profile chart as well as other features I have watched develope
4:52 pm:<Mike> Bill I have other question wehn you are ready?
4:52 pm:<krunch12b> great job your team is doing
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> thanks krunch
4:53 pm:<tuna_> chad can u emulate the esig mp bug yet?
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> which is that? duplicate ref lines?
4:53 pm:<Daniel> that was mine
4:54 pm:<Daniel> his the same?
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> not sure...possibly
4:54 pm:<Daniel> I sent pic and def for you
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> at least 2 of your reported it....pretty sure I've taken care of htat
4:54 pm:<Daniel> still there
4:54 pm:<Daniel> odd
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> taken care of for next release
4:55 pm:<Daniel> oh ok
4:55 pm:<Daniel> sorry
4:55 pm:<krunch12b> guess we all have some of that in auto mode vs custom price
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> send me chart defs that exhibit this problem so I can make sure
4:55 pm:<Daniel> sent
4:55 pm:<Daniel> hour ago
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...shouldn't in 8.3.1 though
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> don't see any email from you today Dan
4:56 pm:<Daniel> man
4:56 pm:<Daniel> lol
4:56 pm:<Daniel> u responded
4:56 pm:<Daniel> and I replied with chart def and screen shot
4:56 pm:<dogfoot> can i have the bong?
4:57 pm:<Mike> he he
4:57 pm:<Daniel> lol
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...I responded today to an email you sent yesterday....but haven't gotten your def or screenshot
4:58 pm:<Daniel> hmm
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4:59 pm:<Daniel> ill check the PC tonight and make sure
4:59 pm:<Daniel> will resend if anything
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> k
4:59 pm:<Daniel> see if you have anything from mpxtreme or mpxtrader
5:01 pm:<Mike> fyi you DTN /IB users I hear a new ER2 ticker
5:01 pm:<Mike> maybe should tell mail list that one.
5:01 pm:<Daniel> yes then chnaged the ticker over the weekend
5:01 pm:<Daniel> LOL
5:01 pm:<Daniel> uggers
5:01 pm:<Daniel> buggers
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5:02 pm:<Daniel> @ER2M6 or @ER2# is now @ERM6 or @ER#
5:02 pm:<Mike> ok someone best tell maillist so all know of this.
5:02 pm:<Daniel> I use the @ER# for downloads which is the continuous contract
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> @ER# is that the new "front month" DTN feature?
5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> ok
5:03 pm:<Daniel> continous
5:03 pm:<Daniel> y
5:03 pm:<Jay_DTN> yup any future if you use the root and # it is the front month
5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> soory, I had to take a phone call, just gettng caught up
5:03 pm:<Mike> for intraday also?
5:03 pm:<Jay_DTN> however, we are still "tweaking" the roll process, so it isn't 100%
5:03 pm:<Daniel> ES ER NQ YM ZN ZB EU all with #
5:03 pm:<Daniel> k
5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> with DTN.IQ that's a real-time symbol
5:03 pm:<Jay_DTN> we are still working on continous daily data with those symbols
5:03 pm:<Daniel> yes intraday also
5:04 pm:<Jay_DTN> right now it is just intraday and for entering the symbol into a watch list
5:04 pm:<LS_Bill> for IB users it's the IB symbol of course
5:04 pm:<Daniel> work fine for a buddy..thats all he uses
5:05 pm:<Daniel> yeah but this will eliminate roll over issues
5:05 pm:<Jay_DTN> correct, use the # symbol so you don't have to change symbols each time it rolls
5:06 pm:<Daniel> have you guys decided when to roll?
5:06 pm:<Daniel> between 4:15 and 4:30?
5:06 pm:<Daniel> or the last friday of the contract?
5:07 pm:<Mike> thru 8 am is rool time i think
5:07 pm:<Daniel> no tha no good
5:07 pm:<Daniel> will make the charts gap error
5:07 pm:<Jay_DTN> we are rolling when the trading rolls "hopefully". I think we have the algorithms right for most contracts now. Should be between sessions. The day varies by contract
5:07 pm:<Daniel> right between sessions is best yes
5:07 pm:<Jay_DTN> some are a few weeks before expiration others are on expiration, etc
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> you can always track the real contract symbol if needed
5:08 pm:<Jay_DTN> never hurts to knudge us a day before it should roll so we can verify things
5:09 pm:<Daniel> true Bill..but the brokers roll also so it puts a bit of a day or two of problems on roll over
5:09 pm:<Daniel> 2 day overlap
5:09 pm:<Daniel> Jay will you be offering an EMini only package?
5:11 pm:<Daniel> there are a number of traders interested in an index emini package with ES ER NQ YM at an affordable rate without a yearly prepaid contract
5:11 pm:<krunch12b> what an idea, only e mini and maybe thirty year bond
5:11 pm:<Daniel> yes
5:12 pm:<Daniel> ER ES NQ YM ZN ZB and maybe Euro for say $50 a month no prepaid
5:12 pm:<Daniel> no stocks or anything else
5:12 pm:<Jay_DTN> no plans for that. Would be willing to talk to Bill about some discounts if the numbers are right though
5:13 pm:<Daniel> emini trading is amarket all on it's own
5:13 pm:<Jay_DTN> If enought IRT users were to come to DTN, I could most likely get the price to $50 with RT Emini's included (plus exchange fees).
5:13 pm:<Jay_DTN> I am hoping to see Bill next week, so we can chat about it
5:13 pm:<Daniel> k
5:14 pm:<Daniel> exchange fees for eminis =$15
5:14 pm:<Daniel> most places
5:15 pm:<Mike> I'm at mytrack now and might be willign to change over I'm on mac computer
5:15 pm:<Daniel> yes
5:15 pm:<Mike> But first I need to solve trading issues.
5:16 pm:<Daniel> $65 a month no prepay for a package deal isn't bad
5:17 pm:<Jay_DTN> exchange fees went up first of the year. $23/mo for CME Emini
5:17 pm:<Mike> Jay you should market a ton on Macintosh yoru service which is possible via IRT.
5:18 pm:<Jay_DTN> We mention it to anyone who asks!
5:18 pm:<Daniel> $65 no prepay..can you do it?
5:19 pm:<Daniel> 100 stocks with E-Minis
5:20 pm:<Jay_DTN> Ill talk to Bill next week and see what we can do
5:20 pm:<Daniel> great
5:21 pm:<Mike> there a show next week?
5:21 pm:<krunch12b> have to go, thanks so much for your creative ability bill, chad, customer service is great noel
5:21 pm:<fcat> need more than 100 stocks
5:21 pm:<Daniel> I noticed you giys have been having trouble with the CBOT feed for the YM contract in thepast few weeks..it falls behind alot....that issue fixed?
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5:22 pm:<LS_Bill> thanks krunch
5:22 pm:<Jay_DTN> Atlanta Wealth expo or something like that. I will be there
5:22 pm:<Mike> neat DTN have a booth?
5:22 pm:<fcat> 1000 pretty good
5:22 pm:<Daniel> LOl
5:22 pm:<Daniel> no no
5:23 pm:<Jay_DTN> no. I will be with another partner doing a seminar. No booth
5:23 pm:<Daniel> we're talking an Eminis futures ackage for day traders
5:23 pm:<fcat> 1000 stocks + e mini bundle would be sweet
5:23 pm:<fcat> me too
5:23 pm:<tuna_> jay dtn seems much slower here than esignal feed
5:23 pm:<Daniel> 1000 stocks you might as well be a stock trader!
5:23 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:23 pm:<Mike> agree on 1000
5:23 pm:<fcat> 1000 stocks 1 emini :)
5:23 pm:<Jay_DTN> The Wealth Expo is mainly retirees, but there is a small niche of active traders that attend
5:23 pm:<fcat> Dan :)
5:23 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:23 pm:<tuna_> 1 or 2 seconds
5:23 pm:<Daniel> put your own package together!
5:24 pm:<Daniel> Im trying to sell mine
5:24 pm:<Daniel> hehe
5:24 pm:<fcat> my needs anyway 1000 stocks + NQ
5:24 pm:<Jay_DTN> tuna - that is the opposite of what we normally hear.... usually spot on. contact our support, i would be curious if the route is further between us vs. esignal
5:24 pm:<fcat> I am a stock trader
5:25 pm:<Mike> Dan you use DTN feed?
5:25 pm:<fcat> thats why I need 1000 stocks Dan...actually only use about 700 or 800 of my allowed 1300 with iq
5:26 pm:<tuna_> ok will do
5:26 pm:<Daniel> DTNMA for downloads...Reza for live and YM slowed down many times over the past 2 weeks
5:26 pm:<Daniel> 1000!!!
5:26 pm:<Daniel> u trade them?
5:26 pm:<Mike> how was ES and ER quote speed?
5:26 pm:<Daniel> ES ER NQ ZN ZB dead on with broker
5:27 pm:<fcat> about 20 or so.... butter a different 20 based on a scan results from 700 or so
5:27 pm:<Daniel> ah ok
5:27 pm:<fcat> : )
5:27 pm:<LS_Bill> was Reza running 8.3? I/RT data acquisition is much better in 8.3
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5:27 pm:<Daniel> yeah using same as me
5:27 pm:<Daniel> latest
5:27 pm:<Daniel> it was YM specific at DTN
5:27 pm:<Daniel> all others were fine
5:28 pm:<tuna_> so your dtn live feed is up to speed?
5:28 pm:<fcat> Jay..DTN for what it's worth....IQ feed with IRT yesterday on RMBS verdict was dead on with HUGW volume...no lag...solid
5:28 pm:<fcat> *HUGE
5:29 pm:<fcat> 30 charts open, L2, tos, etc..
5:29 pm:<Jay_DTN> usually if/when there is a problem, we will hear about it on our forums or I will hear about it through support. Don't ever hesitate to contact me directly if you see an problem - jay.froscheiser@dtn.com
5:29 pm:<fcat> lickity split
5:29 pm:<arno> too bad the order fills can't keep up. ;-)
5:29 pm:<tuna_> hmmmm
5:29 pm:<Daniel> thnx Jay
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5:30 pm:<Daniel> lol arno
5:30 pm:<Jay_DTN> can also IM via Yahoo to jayfro to reach me
5:31 pm:<Daniel> oh!
5:32 pm:<fcat> my IRT/iq feed setup easily the most stable in my trading room...even with my somewhat extreme layout
5:32 pm:<fcat> larege number of intraday charts etc
5:34 pm:<Daniel> 6 charts here and 9 instruments
5:34 pm:<fcat> now....if Bill could just put his finger on my goofy 1m chart issue
5:34 pm:<LS_Bill> I did a little something on that today in fact
5:34 pm:<fcat> :-)
5:34 pm:<Daniel> 2 xTWS and 2 Pats brokers with 4 NT5 domes on one P4 3.0 ghz HT..best setup I ever had..no hiccups
5:35 pm:<LS_Bill> don't know for sure if it will eliminate the problem though, we'll see in 8.3.1
5:35 pm:<fcat> weeeeeeeee
5:35 pm:<fcat> tks in advance for your efforts BIll
5:35 pm:<fcat> whether it works or not
5:35 pm:<Mike> anyone using utoTrader besides me?
5:35 pm:<Mike> AutoTrader
5:36 pm:<fcat> 32 intraday charts here Dan
5:36 pm:<Daniel> I'll wait until I see the MPB 17" get to 2.33 or 2.5 then I'll try the OSx86/IRT again
5:36 pm:<Daniel> 32!!
5:36 pm:<Daniel> man
5:36 pm:<Daniel> 2 x30" ACD?
5:36 pm:<fcat> 9 ladders
5:36 pm:<fcat> L2 window sometimes 2
5:36 pm:<fcat> tos
5:37 pm:<fcat> sometimes 2
5:37 pm:<Daniel> gawd
5:37 pm:<Daniel> I go crazy with 4
5:37 pm:<fcat> since Bill upped the iq buffer
5:37 pm:<fcat> IRT screaming
5:37 pm:<fcat> never misses a beat
5:38 pm:<Daniel> yes here too..IB feed and Broker are dead on tick per tick..
5:38 pm:<fcat> yup
5:38 pm:<fcat> 30 instuments or so....equities
5:38 pm:<fcat> 1 emini
5:38 pm:<fcat> handful of indexes
5:39 pm:<fcat> I'm lovin it
5:39 pm:<Daniel> lose properly with fast feed now ;-)
5:39 pm:<fcat> y IB/iq dead on
5:39 pm:<fcat> yup
5:39 pm:<fcat> lol
5:40 pm:<fcat> and can't blame it on alag now
5:40 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:40 pm:<Daniel> das right
5:40 pm:<fcat> lose in real time
5:40 pm:<fcat> :)
5:40 pm:<LS_Bill> ;-)
5:40 pm:<Daniel> it's important because it gives you a chance to get back in on a stop out from noise
5:40 pm:<fcat> so what did you find/try Bill?
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> there is some "session open" housekeeping that goes on when the trading session begins
5:41 pm:<Daniel> before I would freeze while IRT dropped behind IB's quotes not knowing who was right
5:41 pm:<Daniel> missed trades
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> chart windows are "refreshed" to adjust their view periods since a new session has now begun
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> someone else reported some strange things happening at startup and saw some downloading taking place
5:42 pm:<fcat> tell me if this makes sense then.....
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> so the fix was to suppress any auto downloadng during this start of session housekeeping
5:43 pm:<fcat> ok
5:43 pm:<Daniel> ohI have something to report in relation to that.
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> you mentioned to me that the data appears for a moment and then goes away
5:43 pm:<fcat> y
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> this could be a download clearing the chart.
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> so this is fixed now, it may solve your issue also.
5:44 pm:<fcat> good
5:44 pm:<fcat> I'll keep fingers crossed
5:44 pm:<fcat> maybe this will help.....
5:44 pm:<Daniel> when I start up in the AM and DL my data the "check point database backup" starts just as I do a verify historical data...it freezes IRT for a bit and I think the check point databased needs a slight delay
5:44 pm:<fcat> One day last week to see if it made a difference
5:45 pm:<fcat> I didn't shut down IRT
5:45 pm:<fcat> after trading day
5:45 pm:<fcat> let everything post as always....
5:45 pm:<fcat> just didn't shutdown and backup
5:46 pm:<fcat> stayed connected all night till next session 0 open
5:46 pm:<fcat> no erasing 1m charts
5:46 pm:<fcat> make any sense?
5:46 pm:<fcat> or help?
5:46 pm:<Daniel> yes
5:46 pm:<fcat> if I backup...they erase on the open
5:47 pm:<Mike> ok good chat kinda thanks bbye you all
5:47 pm:<fcat> cya Mike
5:47 pm:<fcat> take care
5:47 pm:<Mike> I emial support my issues then :)
5:47 pm:<arno> bye Mike
5:47 pm:<Mike> bye
5:47 pm:<fcat> I got one even wierder as well Bill
5:47 pm:<Daniel> only way fcat is let someone else run your setup
5:48 pm:<Daniel> if it's only you it has to be 100% a setting
5:48 pm:<fcat> it will sometimes do the erasing bit on my NQ chart at session 31 open....but not always
5:49 pm:<fcat> on equities it's everyday
5:49 pm:<fcat> on all 1m charts
5:49 pm:<Daniel> only 1 min?
5:49 pm:<Jay_DTN> whoppie, wife is yelling for me to come eat! Nice chatting with everyone - have a good evening
5:49 pm:<fcat> y
5:49 pm:<fcat> only 1m
5:49 pm:<fcat> and all 1m
5:49 pm:<Daniel> try 61 seconds or 90 secs
5:49 pm:<Daniel> see if ti happens
5:49 pm:<fcat> 10 1m equity charts...and all erase
5:49 pm:<LS_Bill> burn me a cd of your data_f folder and mail it to me, I'll run your setup on my own DTN.IQ account for a day or two
5:49 pm:<fcat> at same time
5:50 pm:<fcat> if I initialize all data
5:50 pm:<Daniel> man that has to be a setting
5:50 pm:<fcat> and start clean...
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5:50 pm:<fcat> it will be fine for one session 0 open......
5:50 pm:<fcat> and then back to the goofyness on the next open
5:51 pm:<fcat> are there not many iqfeed equity traders?
5:51 pm:<fcat> or is no one experiencing this
5:52 pm:<Daniel> looks to be only you
5:52 pm:<fcat> I'm lucky that way
5:52 pm:<arno> I use 1 min charts but I leave IRT up all the time
5:52 pm:<fcat> :)
5:52 pm:<fcat> and on mac right arno?
5:53 pm:<arno> yep and DTN
5:53 pm:<Daniel> 2.5dual?
5:53 pm:<fcat> I'll try and put this next deal in text Bill
5:53 pm:<arno> yes
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5:53 pm:<fcat> if after a chart "erases".....
5:54 pm:<fcat> and I right clik in the time field at the bottom to open preferences
5:55 pm:<fcat> and then just close the prefs window without changing anything
5:55 pm:<fcat> the erased data comes back
5:55 pm:<Daniel> yep
5:55 pm:<Daniel> use to happen to me also
5:55 pm:<fcat> until the next 1m candle updates
5:55 pm:<fcat> then gone again
5:55 pm:<Daniel> but that was because I had tick based data in my charts
5:56 pm:<Daniel> like using volume or range based charts
5:56 pm:<fcat> if I hit the download arrow the data come in IMMEDIATELY
5:56 pm:<Daniel> are your chart view period set to last X days ?
5:57 pm:<Daniel> and not begin to end
5:57 pm:<fcat> not like a download...but like it was sitting there the whole time but not visible
5:57 pm:<fcat> 1m charts set to 2 days Dan
5:57 pm:<fcat> yes
5:58 pm:<Daniel> pick one symbol and send me a screen shot of it's inst setup..then take a pick of the charts prefs view period and send me thast
5:58 pm:<fcat> if I close an "erased" 1m chart and reopen
5:58 pm:<Daniel> I want to see something
5:58 pm:<fcat> the data comes back...but again...only til next candle updates
5:59 pm:<Daniel> send to mpxtrader@videotron.ca
5:59 pm:<arno> maybe your video card is having a hard time refreshing all your monitors
6 pm:<fcat> if I use download arrow to bring erased dat back it stays
6 pm:<fcat> dat=data
6 pm:<Daniel> pick one symbol and send me a screen shot of it's inst setup..then take a pick of the charts prefs view period and send me that
6 pm:<Daniel> plz
6:01 pm:<fcat> say pretty plz
6:01 pm:<Daniel> petty pweese
6:01 pm:<fcat> lol
6:01 pm:<Daniel> hehe
6:01 pm:<fcat> oh kay
6:01 pm:<Daniel> oh tay
6:02 pm:<Daniel> im wookin punub in awe da wong paces
6:02 pm:<Daniel> looking for love in all the wrong places
6:02 pm:<fcat> lol buwheat
6:02 pm:<Daniel> lol
6:03 pm:<fcat> wokkin pa nub
6:03 pm:<fcat> how do I snap a screenshot of a setup window on this windoze pos?
6:04 pm:<Daniel> u have a print screen key?
6:04 pm:<Daniel> on kb just past the F keys
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6:06 pm:<fcat> y
6:06 pm:<fcat> lol
6:06 pm:<Daniel> lol
6:06 pm:<fcat> I'm a windiot
6:06 pm:<Daniel> use control print screen for window
6:06 pm:<fcat> mac savvy pc crabby
6:06 pm:<Daniel> print screen alone will do the whole desktop
6:06 pm:<fcat> tks
6:07 pm:<Daniel> and it's ahuge file
6:07 pm:<Daniel> lol
6:07 pm:<Daniel> even window is 5 mbs minimum
6:07 pm:<fcat> y alot of scrolling for that one
6:08 pm:<Daniel> or go get snag it
6:08 pm:<Daniel> 30 day trial and you can get a www.serial.ws for it
6:08 pm:<Daniel> ;-)
6:09 pm:<fcat> lol trying to figure wher the scrrenshots went
6:10 pm:<Daniel> oh ok
6:10 pm:<Daniel> open your Paint program
6:10 pm:<Daniel> paste it in there
6:10 pm:<fcat> lol
6:11 pm:<Daniel> yeah i know
6:11 pm:<Daniel> lol
6:11 pm:<Daniel> Irt user told me how to do it without snag it a few weeks ag
6:11 pm:<Daniel> ago*
6:11 pm:<fcat> honestly....this isn't my first computer
6:12 pm:<Daniel> first Peecee
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6:16 pm:<fcat> ctrl + print screen keeps giving me the whole desktop
6:16 pm:<Daniel> dang
6:16 pm:<Daniel> option print screen
6:17 pm:<Daniel> here do thisd
6:17 pm:<Daniel> http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.asp
6:17 pm:<Daniel> dl free trial
6:17 pm:<Daniel> easy to find serial for it
6:17 pm:<Daniel> works like OS X snag
6:19 pm:<Daniel> its the one just about everybody/trader uses
6:25 pm:<LS_Bill> have a nice evening everyone
6:25 pm:<Daniel> u 2
6:25 pm:<fcat> tks Bill
6:26 pm:<Daniel> send when ready fact
6:26 pm:<Daniel> fcat
6:26 pm:<arno> till next week Bill.
6:26 pm:<fcat> k Dan
6:26 pm:<fcat> just noticed your email address
6:26 pm:<Daniel> k
6:26 pm:<fcat> you in Canada?
6:27 pm:<Daniel> just 10 mins outside Montreal
6:27 pm:<Daniel> y
6:27 pm:<fcat> cool
6:27 pm:<arno> Montreal is awesome.
6:27 pm:<fcat> Ontario my home away from home
6:27 pm:<Daniel> yes
6:27 pm:<fcat> way south tho
6:27 pm:<Daniel> near the norder?
6:27 pm:<fcat> Lake of the Woods
6:27 pm:<Daniel> border or buffalo?
6:27 pm:<Daniel> *of
6:28 pm:<Daniel> ah
6:28 pm:*** LS_Bill has left
6:28 pm:<fcat> Live just about 15 minutes south of canadian border as the crow flies
6:28 pm:<Daniel> where?
6:28 pm:<fcat> Ely, MN
6:28 pm:<Daniel> near the resevation?
6:29 pm:<fcat> spend half my summer on L.O.T.W. and Rainy Lake
6:30 pm:<fcat> couple weeks in Kenora
6:30 pm:<fcat> a few weeks in the winter as well
6:30 pm:<Daniel> wow small town
6:31 pm:<fcat> y
6:32 pm:<Daniel> near golf course , park or cemetary?
6:33 pm:<fcat> on the water...then in the bars
6:33 pm:<Daniel> lol
6:33 pm:<fcat> mostly
6:34 pm:<Daniel> http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Ely,+MN
6:34 pm:<fcat> oh here
6:34 pm:<fcat> lol
6:34 pm:<Daniel> hehe
6:34 pm:<fcat> thought you ment kenora
6:34 pm:<Daniel> ah
6:35 pm:<fcat> bout 10 miles sw of town on Farm Lake
6:35 pm:<fcat> part of White Iron Chain
6:35 pm:<fcat> yes small town alright
6:35 pm:<Daniel> hmm no Farm lake
6:35 pm:<Daniel> White Iron
6:36 pm:<fcat> yep WI and Farm connected