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4:19 pm:<Mike> Chad can you post chart def for today's chart please :)
4:20 pm:<LS_Chad> for what chart?
4:20 pm:<Mike> trad tpo
4:20 pm:<LS_Chad> no point...not available yet
4:20 pm:<Mike> ok when avail be fine
4:21 pm:<jimbrowskii> Hi, I have a question about locking charts. How can I lock my chart or just make it so when I open my layout every day my chart indicators are not all scrunched up?
4:21 pm:<Mike> what are lines?
4:21 pm:<LS_Chad> locking has nothing to do with that jim
4:21 pm:<LS_Chad> if you save the chart...it should come back up as you left it
4:21 pm:<Mike> save chart should do it Jim
4:21 pm:<LS_Chad> and I/RT should auto-save when shutting down
4:22 pm:<LS_Chad> depending on how you have it setup in setup: prefs: general
4:22 pm:<jimbrowskii> well haven't i already done that. i mean i saved them to my layout
4:22 pm:<LS_Chad> are these "floating" charts, jim?
4:22 pm:<jimbrowskii> no i have auto save off
4:22 pm:<LS_Chad> ok..why?
4:22 pm:<Mike> save layout not do a chart save really
4:22 pm:<jimbrowskii> what do you mean by floating? just my regular charts i use.
4:22 pm:<Mike> try now, set as you like, save chart, quit reopen irt
4:22 pm:<LS_Chad> hold your layout questions for when Bill gets in the room
4:23 pm:<LS_Chad> you can float charts outside of the I/RT task window now
4:23 pm:<Mike> IRT charts can now float outside the main IRT window
4:23 pm:<jimbrowskii> well i have auto save off, cause I'm always messing with my charts and i dont want the stuff to save
4:23 pm:<Mike> chart will reopen last saved settings
4:24 pm:* Mike slaps jimbrowskii around a bit with a large carp, he he! :)
4:24 pm:* jimbrowskii slaps Mike around a bit with a large trout
4:28 pm:<jimbrowskii> hmm ok i saved chart and seems to be working for now
4:29 pm:<Mike> great jim
4:29 pm:<Mike> added that feature in 0.8 version :)
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4:31 pm:<Mike> Hello tuna. Welcome to the Linn Software Chat room.
4:31 pm:<Mike> Chad some reporting problems on charts
4:31 pm:<Mike> tuna, krunch, glove i recall
4:31 pm:<LS_Chad> let's hear it
4:32 pm:<Mike> change settings, change symbols i heard fyi
4:32 pm:<jimbrowskii> i don't know how they eventually get skewed though, maybe if i switch resolution or something
4:32 pm:<Mike> krunch: I haven't had any problems saving charts, but some lock up and cause crash now when ya change cusom display. like .1 for er. or .10 for sox
4:32 pm:<Mike> woops glvoe no probs
4:32 pm:<tuna> i saved each chart everyway i could think of just now and it worked
4:33 pm:<tuna> save as,,save layout,,save this save that
4:33 pm:<Mike> krunch will reboot and enter ehre
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4:33 pm:<Mike> Hello krunch12b. Welcome to the Linn Software Chat room.
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4:34 pm:<Mike> Hello LS_Bill. Welcome to the Linn Software Chat room.
4:34 pm:<Mike> ok Krunch ask away please
4:34 pm:<Mike> I posted yoru .1 custom problem
4:34 pm:<LS_Bill> hello, sorry I'm late
4:34 pm:<Mike> forgiven
4:34 pm:<Mike> Krunch should be no need to start all over really
4:34 pm:<krunch12b> well, then ya know it is crashing
4:35 pm:<krunch12b> don't know what I am doing to cause that to happen
4:35 pm:<Mike> ok I pass you to Chad
4:35 pm:<Mike> what chart? what action you do to casue issue?
4:35 pm:<krunch12b> well, have talked to chad
4:35 pm:<LS_Bill> are you getting a fatal error message with a code/error location?
4:35 pm:<tuna> so either 1 of the saves worked or all of them
4:35 pm:<tuna> im not sure
4:36 pm:<LS_Chad> krunch..if you crash....we need the crash location....
4:36 pm:<krunch12b> lol
4:36 pm:<krunch12b> alaska
4:36 pm:<krunch12b> kenai
4:36 pm:<LS_Chad> send that to support whenever it crashes
4:37 pm:<jimbrowskii> lol
4:37 pm:<LS_Bill> IRT puts the error location and error code into the message log also
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> it will give you something like error at location 0x0045c543
4:37 pm:<krunch12b> ok
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> will help us pinpoint the problem
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> also, if you did anything specific just before the crash occurred..also useful
4:37 pm:<LS_Bill> after startup you can use File: Open Message Log to view the fatal error message and email it to us
4:37 pm:<tuna> i didnt get a prompt to send an error report on my crashes today
4:38 pm:<krunch12b> says irt out of memory and must close
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> sometimes IRT encounters an "XVT Internal Error" which is not really a crash, it simply causes IRT to quit
4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> those kinds of errors are logged to the message log as well, send them to support after starting up again
4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> out of memory errors are not crashes
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> out of memory will not give you a location
4:39 pm:<krunch12b> and can not continue
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> do you have any indication of which chart might be causing this to occur?
4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> this is another failure that forces IRT to terminate (IRT cannot continue)
4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> is this on Windows XP ?
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> and is this in 8.3.4?
4:40 pm:<krunch12b> windows xp
4:41 pm:<krunch12b> been having trouble with both 8.3.3 and 8.3.4
4:41 pm:<Mike> TPO VP charts Crunch?
4:41 pm:<tuna> memory leak somewhere maybe
4:42 pm:<krunch12b> dont see location, ya want me to send ya admin/msglog
4:42 pm:<krunch12b> having problems with both bar chart and tpo
4:42 pm:<tuna> i show no message logs on my crashes
4:43 pm:<krunch12b> not having trouble with Volume Profile chart that i know of at this time
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> krunch...try exporting your layout and sending to me (as text file)
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> just do a "file: export: layout"
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> file: export: current layout
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> with your normal charts open
4:44 pm:<Mike> any IRT news? new features things?
4:44 pm:<Mike> plans?
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> the ones that are causing you the out of memory error
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tpo/charts/trad_dev_tpo.jpg
4:44 pm:<tuna> i think my crashes were probly a windoz thing
4:44 pm:<fcat> 22.20 fill..will clip 23.10 os
4:45 pm:<fcat> woops.....sorry
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4:45 pm:<Mike> can you explain that chart a bit Chad? nice
4:46 pm:<Mike> Hello Christine2. Welcome to the Linn Software Chat room.
4:46 pm:<tuna> 1 prob i had on 8.3.4 was getting the big s+p to display prices correctly in tenths
4:46 pm:<LS_Chad> has VA & POC lines..both developing and previous
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4:46 pm:<tuna> glove had the same prob on er2
4:46 pm:<Mike> nice
4:46 pm:<Mike> Hello Daniel. Welcome to the Linn Software Chat room.
4:47 pm:<Daniel> good afternoon
4:47 pm:<tuna> this is why we went back to version 8.3.3
4:47 pm:<Daniel> what problem I missed it?
4:47 pm:<Daniel> with VP charts?
4:48 pm:<tuna> <tuna> 1 prob i had on 8.3.4 was getting the big s+p to display prices correctly in tenths
4:48 pm:<Daniel> oh!
4:48 pm:<krunch12b> ok sent
4:48 pm:<Daniel> yes there seem to be odd display scale bugs
4:49 pm:<Daniel> here and there
4:49 pm:<tuna> i never even tried er
4:49 pm:<tuna> 8.3.3 seems to work fine though
4:49 pm:<Daniel> on TPO charts as afar as I know..not sure about traditional charts
4:50 pm:<Daniel> k
4:50 pm:<tuna> yes tpo
4:50 pm:<Daniel> ah
4:50 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tpo/charts/tpo_sp.jpg
4:50 pm:<Daniel> have to use the custom box and set it to the instruments settings
4:50 pm:<LS_Chad> just have to make sure SP is setup with display format of 99.9
4:50 pm:<Daniel> to get around the problem
4:50 pm:<Mike> here Dan: LS_Chad: http://www.linnsoft.com/tpo/charts/trad_dev_tpo.jpg
4:51 pm:<tuna> not sure about the others either
4:51 pm:<Daniel> what that?
4:51 pm:<tuna> i tried everything danny
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4:51 pm:<Daniel> for Sp?
4:51 pm:<tuna> then just went back to 8.3.3
4:51 pm:<Daniel> k
4:51 pm:<LS_Chad> scott...that chart is setup with SP, with SP set to 99.9 display format..and custom range of 0.1
4:52 pm:<tuna> ya on the big spoos
4:52 pm:<IRT_USER> Hello
4:52 pm:<Mike> Hello IRT_USER. Welcome to the Linn Software Chat room.
4:52 pm:<Daniel> try it on TPO Chad
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4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> that's what I jus posted
4:52 pm:<IRT_USER> How do i change my handle in here - I joined from the IRT application
4:53 pm:<Daniel> the chart is a candle chart
4:53 pm:<Daniel> lol
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> the one Mike posted is
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> the one I posted is TPO
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> edit your chat preferences
4:53 pm:<Daniel> hmm
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> [16:51] LS_Chad: http://www.linnsoft.com/tpo/charts/tpo_sp.jpg
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> double-click in chat window
4:53 pm:<Daniel> nope
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> and set your nickname to something other than IRT_USER
4:53 pm:<Daniel> same chart bth links
4:53 pm:*** IRT_USER is now known as Julian
4:53 pm:<Mike> irt user, type /nick newnickname
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> hi Julian
4:54 pm:<Daniel> k
4:54 pm:<Daniel> got it
4:54 pm:<Julian> Hi Bill
4:54 pm:<Mike> What you been working on Bill?
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> Noel told me you upgraded to Pro, any questions yet on RTL?
4:55 pm:<LS_Bill> I've been doing some work on IB backfill
4:55 pm:<Mike> ahh great :)
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> krunch..was there only one chart open when you saved that layout? (one tpo chart)
4:55 pm:<LS_Bill> IRT will support daily and tick backfill in 8.3.5
4:55 pm:<Julian> Not yet, I have been creating custom, indicators and columns like crazy
4:55 pm:<Daniel> Bill!!!
4:55 pm:<krunch12b> lol, it didnt show the floating charts
4:55 pm:<Daniel> how far back?
4:55 pm:<Mike> \beautiful. how manhy days? for eod and ticks?
4:55 pm:<LS_Bill> turns out IB does not send tick data
4:55 pm:<Julian> Bill, that is music to my ears, how did you know
4:55 pm:<LS_Bill> they send one sec interval bars
4:55 pm:<Mike> right
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> no...apparently exporting the layout does not include floating windows
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> yet
4:56 pm:<Daniel> how far back Bill
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> how many floating windows do you have krunch?
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> 20 hours of ticks is all
4:56 pm:<Daniel> for back fill
4:56 pm:<Daniel> ouch
4:56 pm:<Mike> you sure?
4:56 pm:<Daniel> k
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> and it takes 40 requests to get that
4:56 pm:<Daniel> wow
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> since you can only ask IB for 2000 seconds of ticks at a time
4:57 pm:<Daniel> Mike pay $12 to DTNMA for God's sake
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> it's intended primarily for backfill after short term outages
4:57 pm:<Mike> great yes
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> if you need longer term tick data on demand, DTN Market Access will continue to be the best solution
4:57 pm:<krunch12b> six floaters
4:57 pm:<Daniel> dunno why its such an issue with you..your paying for worse data
4:57 pm:<krunch12b> sometimes more
4:57 pm:<krunch12b> more
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> this chart http://www.linnsoft.com/tpo/charts/trad_dev_tpo.jpg involves a TPO indicator I'm working on, that will display historical developing VAH, VAL, POC alongside the previous days values..all with one indicator
4:58 pm:<Mike> excellent
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> and works with any periodicity....should match up with the TPO chart values
4:58 pm:<Daniel> neat
4:58 pm:<Julian> Can I ask what the fave data feed is, I know, I am sure people have their favourites (favorite US!) but I use esignal, because, I already subscribe to esignal
4:58 pm:<Mike> could do now with custom indicators? set to the TPO V#'s?
4:59 pm:<Mike> esign is solid, DTN is good
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> and no, it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of TPO charts....some may come....but right now, it just allows you to specify the time of first letter....and the tick increment / range
4:59 pm:<LS_Bill> eSignal and DTN.IQ are our two most popular
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> and it uses a 30min/letter otherwise
4:59 pm:<Daniel> Ive notice VP errors on the same feed between users...different bid/ask totals and different highs and lows
5 pm:<Mike> IB is good also
5 pm:<Julian> thanks
5 pm:<LS_Chad> well..can't really do this right now...as far as viewing the values developing during day
5 pm:<LS_Bill> IB is our latest feed, coming on strong, due to low cost
5 pm:<Mike> yes
5 pm:<LS_Chad> but with this indicator...will be able to back test the VAH, VAL, POC, etc
5 pm:<LS_Bill> but it's limited to 100 symbols, not for everyone
5 pm:<LS_Chad> because you have the historical values as of close of any bar, any periodicity
5 pm:<Daniel> POC from day session?
5 pm:<Mike> Bill can you check on PC I start IB feed at 12 midnight and 8 am at times, then 5 min before open feed is off
5 pm:<krunch12b> ok, have to go for now, see you all later
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> yes..whatever session chart is set to
5:01 pm:<krunch12b> thank you all
5:01 pm:<Mike> and set to auto reconnect, and also a schedule to reconnect is runnin g i believe
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> krunch
5:01 pm:<krunch12b> great program
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> if you want to export each of those charts seperately..and send to me
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> (right-click on chart and choose "save: definition")
5:01 pm:<krunch12b> ok
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> I'll do some testing on my end
5:01 pm:<Daniel> did u figure out how to display a histogram measuring the distance the last price is from the TPO I specify?
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5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> no....can revisit that with this indicator...might make that easier
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> I recently discovered, thanks to Julian, that custom columns for built-in indicators were not functioning in the Standard Version of IRT
5:02 pm:<Daniel> ah
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> this is corrected for 8.3.5 when released
5:02 pm:<Mike> 835 eta?
5:02 pm:<Julian> Sorry for so many emails on that :D
5:02 pm:<Daniel> ok all I need is a token for the TPO POC..
5:02 pm:<Daniel> ?
5:02 pm:<Mike> good find Julian
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...will be able to get at this via RTL TPO token
5:03 pm:<Daniel> and plot it histrically
5:03 pm:<Daniel> ok
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5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> with options for what result is...POC, DPOC, etc
5:03 pm:<Mike> Hello IRT_USER. Welcome to the Linn Software Chat room.
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5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> may have to wait til chad is at a stopping point
5:03 pm:<Mike> ok lov eto see VB as stepped bars :)
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> I'll probably be ready on Thursday...look for one on Thursday afternoon
5:04 pm:<Mike> Chad will VB ti be a RTL token please?
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> few things I have to tie up
5:04 pm:<Julian> to be honest though - for another $20 a month its worth all the RTL features anyway - I have made use already (no commission sales here)
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...I will make it one...but keep in mind...won't be efficient that way
5:04 pm:<Mike> ok need for backtesting at least
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> right
5:04 pm:<Mike> to set a signal based on vb indicator
5:05 pm:<Mike> thank you
5:05 pm:<LS_Chad> that will still potentially be a memory hog....doing signal markers based on this
5:05 pm:<Mike> Julian need any RTL or TSYS/backtest help let me know
5:05 pm:<Mike> i do MA of VB then signal marker on MA slope change is all
5:05 pm:<Julian> Thank you - I am enjoying getting to grips with it all
5:05 pm:<LS_Bill> The standard edition was always intended as a "starter", IRT without RTL is like Aunt Jamima's pancakes without the syrup
5:06 pm:<Mike> soon I try a 3o flag system from TS to do in IRT
5:06 pm:<Daniel> Chad could I get you to make me a chart type as a "plug in" special feature?
5:06 pm:<Daniel> LOL
5:06 pm:<Daniel> BILL
5:06 pm:<Julian> Ok - the US pancakes ref got me !!! Judy without punch
5:06 pm:<Julian> But pancakes sound nicer
5:06 pm:<LS_Bill> there you go. you got it julian
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> it's possible.....you mean one only available to you?
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> or for you to distribute?
5:07 pm:<Daniel> yes and to one or two others
5:07 pm:<Julian> Does anyone else the the **41)) Julian(UK):Unknown command message - or is it local to me?
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> possibly...email me details
5:07 pm:<Daniel> k
5:07 pm:<Daniel> same as the email i already sent
5:08 pm:<Mike> maybe a locked coded chart Dan
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> repeat your message Julian, IRC didn't like it, it appears
5:08 pm:<Mike> Once Bill mentioned ability to lock a custom indicator to keep secret etc...
5:08 pm:<Julian> okay - every time I send a message... I get a 421 error come up
5:08 pm:<Julian> saying "unknown command"
5:08 pm:<Daniel> not complicated but maybe better than having you to commit to adding CF32 features
5:08 pm:<Daniel> :-)
5:09 pm:<Mike> heck add cf32 for all
5:09 pm:<Daniel> nah ...
5:10 pm:<LS_Bill> I don't see that here Julian
5:10 pm:<Julian> it just appears on my chat dialogue
5:10 pm:<Julian> after every message I send - nobody else, just me
5:10 pm:<Daniel> it would be like adding the BMW M5 engine to everyone that paid for the .....
5:11 pm:<Julian> Hmm BMW M5
5:11 pm:<Daniel> hmmmm indeed
5:11 pm:<Julian> They are a wicked hard ride, though
5:11 pm:<Daniel> not the new one
5:12 pm:<Daniel> wicked hard as in hip talk or regular folk jargon?
5:12 pm:<Julian> I have an old - ish 7 series, much more comfy
5:12 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:12 pm:<Daniel> ah
5:12 pm:<Daniel> 2006 M5
5:12 pm:<Julian> errr. not sure - wicked = harsh
5:12 pm:<Daniel> V10 507 HP
5:12 pm:<LS_Bill> I have an old-ish 7 also ;-)
5:12 pm:<Daniel> what year?
5:12 pm:<LS_Bill> 1998
5:12 pm:<Julian> 1999
5:12 pm:<Mike> Bill I ask on that ib tick dl stuff and report
5:12 pm:<Daniel> had a 535i was nice
5:12 pm:<Daniel> ahh
5:12 pm:<Daniel> nice
5:13 pm:<LS_Bill> I had a 535i in the 80's
5:13 pm:<Julian> At least I am close enough to Germany to really give it some
5:13 pm:<Daniel> yes
5:13 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:13 pm:<Mike> i hear new AT coming, when not sure though
5:13 pm:<LS_Bill> I lived in Germany growing up, have always like German cars
5:13 pm:<Mike> It will time o ut irt/http sent orders
5:14 pm:<LS_Bill> good
5:14 pm:<Daniel> same here..Volks and BMW never drove anything else
5:14 pm:<Julian> Bill, me too
5:14 pm:<Daniel> ok...lol back to IRT
5:15 pm:<Julian> yep!
5:15 pm:<Daniel> I notices that between me and another IRT/IB user that our VP chart's data isn't the same
5:15 pm:<LS_Bill> get guys talking about their cars, and it's hard to change the subject ;-)
5:15 pm:<Daniel> ;-)
5:15 pm:<Julian> yep, but how about a custom column for my fuel guage?
5:16 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:16 pm:<Daniel> market pressure sensor ;-)
5:16 pm:<Daniel> fuel gauge= PL column at broker
5:16 pm:<LS_Bill> Daniel, were you both running same version of IRT
5:17 pm:<Daniel> yep the lastest
5:17 pm:<Daniel> from a few days ago
5:17 pm:<Julian> quite roflmao
5:17 pm:<LS_Bill> well, if you're onto something, best bet is to have both of you export "tick data" and send in the files so we can compare them
5:17 pm:<Mike> new Version of IRT have a good market pressure ti
5:17 pm:<Mike> pressure bars I call em :)
5:18 pm:<LS_Bill> one chart may have been formed from real-time ticks, and another from a combination of one minute bars and ticks ??
5:18 pm:<Daniel> ok..will do..it's Dave..he contacted you or Chad to day about it..I'll send my tick data
5:18 pm:<Daniel> nah same 5 and 15 minute VP charts
5:18 pm:<Daniel> identical charts
5:18 pm:<LS_Bill> in 8.3.5 you'll be able to refresh ticks in chart, that will bring current session into sync for sure
5:19 pm:<Daniel> k
5:19 pm:<Daniel> oh...u know that ref line reset I tried to do...opening and closing a chart restes them...would the chart refresh do the same?
5:19 pm:<Mike> bill bars built of of PC times? for ib feed?
5:20 pm:<Daniel> yes Mike
5:20 pm:<Daniel> both onPC IRT/IB
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> yes, IB does not send time of trade, since they don't send trades
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> the send "price updates" with no time stamp
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> so all we can do is stamp them with the time of receipt
5:20 pm:<Mike> ok there Dan yoru PC can be off time by 30 sec give different tpo a bit possibly
5:21 pm:<Daniel> ah s he and I may be a few seconds off..and that would effect the high/low of some of our bars?
5:21 pm:<Mike> to your friend
5:21 pm:<Mike> yes
5:21 pm:<LS_Bill> even 1 second off could theoretically show bar boundary differences actually
5:21 pm:<Mike> slight difference
5:22 pm:<Daniel> yes my data is missing where he has 33X 0 @ 649 and I would have 15 X 16 @ 648.9.
5:22 pm:<Daniel> big difference
5:23 pm:<Daniel> im waiting to see the seller cap the top where his does and mine is worng...cost money ;-)
5:23 pm:<Daniel> hmm
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tpo/charts/trad_tpo_vp.jpg
5:23 pm:<Daniel> I'll syncronize with him at 9:15 tomorrow
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> delta bars, DVAH, DVAL, DPOC, VAH, VAL, POC, all running efficiently on a range bars chart....
5:24 pm:<tuna> cool
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...really brings everything together
5:25 pm:<Mike> great
5:25 pm:<tuna> post the chart defs
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> the delta bars show the max and min deltas achieved on that bar also
5:25 pm:<Mike> vb bars staked better :)
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> can do cumulative delta bars also..and apply smoothing to the delta bars
5:25 pm:<tuna> post the chart defs please
5:25 pm:<Mike> anyone knwo does ib or mytrack have advvolume and dec volume?
5:25 pm:<Mike> sport a trader uses that a lot
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> new stuff tuna...not available yet
5:26 pm:<Mike> need 8.3.5 Tuna
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> haven't even done the proper coding yet to export it
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> fresh off the press....
5:26 pm:<tuna> ok
5:27 pm:<tuna> chad,,,,guy cracked us up today
5:27 pm:<Mike> great Chat
5:27 pm:<Mike> thank you for time and features
5:27 pm:<tuna> we were all laughin
5:27 pm:<Mike> great program
5:27 pm:<LS_Chad> yea
5:27 pm:<Mike> it all listed on apple site both places i check later Bill
5:27 pm:<Daniel> what is the histogram at the bottom showing?
5:27 pm:<tuna> hes prolly on elite stirring it up
5:27 pm:<LS_Chad> delta for that bar
5:28 pm:<Daniel> ah ok
5:28 pm:<LS_Chad> max & min with white candle wicks
5:28 pm:<Daniel> nice!
5:28 pm:<Mike> Chad a gif/png export and auto upload be great someday
5:28 pm:<Mike> it on list from few years ago i know :)
5:29 pm:<Daniel> 1998 = POC?
5:29 pm:<Mike> y
5:29 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tpo/charts/trad_tp_vpcum.jpg
5:29 pm:<LS_Chad> bottom pane there shows a 3 period smoothing of accumulated delta for day
5:29 pm:<Daniel> all those green buyers are on the wrong side of the trade ;-)
5:30 pm:<Mike> chad cna VB bars, set nto to cum, start at lose of prev bar? ie stacked?
5:30 pm:<LS_Chad> that's what's in the middle pane Mike
5:30 pm:<Mike> not stacked?
5:31 pm:<Mike> ie new bar starts at prev bar close
5:31 pm:<LS_Chad> try the sentence above again
5:31 pm:<Mike> need gif?
5:31 pm:<LS_Chad> slower
5:31 pm:<LS_Chad> you want cumulative bars, or not?
5:31 pm:<Mike> not
5:31 pm:<Mike> nope
5:32 pm:<LS_Chad> ok...non-cumulative in the middle pane
5:32 pm:<LS_Chad> per-bar values
5:32 pm:<Mike> right then have new bar start at previous bar close
5:32 pm:<LS_Chad> that's cumulative
5:32 pm:<Mike> ok
5:33 pm:<Mike> great
5:33 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tpo/charts/trad_vp_cum.jpg
5:33 pm:<LS_Chad> that what you want?
5:34 pm:<Mike> yes but I use not smoothed 3 bars so great
5:34 pm:<LS_Chad> sure..don't have to smooth...that one isn't
5:35 pm:<Mike> nice hope we can beta it asap no need export :)
5:35 pm:<Mike> great Chat team thank you again
5:35 pm:<Mike> need to help soccer practice now
5:35 pm:<LS_Bill> I can stay awhile longer if anyone has any other questions
5:35 pm:<Daniel> leave those young high school girls alone Mike
5:36 pm:<Mike> keep eye on IRT ib feed Bill please over night or pre open hour
5:36 pm:<Daniel> yes...how is the NT5 planning coming along?
5:36 pm:<Mike> you get fcats db Bill? in us mail?
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> Ray told me maybe November 2006 they could update their API.
5:37 pm:<Daniel> :x
5:37 pm:<LS_Bill> so it looks like for the short term, the only way to use NT with extensive feedback is to use the PUF import
5:37 pm:<Daniel> puf import it shall be then
5:38 pm:<LS_Bill> maybe you could start a thread on the discussion list about using PUF import and NT
5:38 pm:<Daniel> Eddy has a whole section on how to do it I think no?
5:38 pm:<LS_Bill> Dan T has it worked out very well for his purposes and I hope he would comment
5:38 pm:<LS_Bill> maybe. I don't know
5:38 pm:<Daniel> yes I have Dan's exact settings and instructions
5:38 pm:<LS_Bill> good
5:39 pm:<Daniel> Eddy had an automation NT how to web page
5:39 pm:<Daniel> on Linnsoft no?
5:39 pm:<Julian> I am just listening in
5:39 pm:<Julian> in
5:39 pm:<Daniel> or was it his own website
5:40 pm:<Julian> I have no questions at this stage... Beginners luck! My friend Larry is just going to Sign up Bill
5:40 pm:<Daniel> ah website/sever down
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> Eddie wrote a trading tutorial
5:41 pm:<Daniel> for automation
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> great Julian, thanks for the referral
5:41 pm:<Daniel> using puf files for the same purpose...it's ok I have dan
5:42 pm:<Daniel> *Dan's stuff
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> go to linnsoft.com/search and search for it
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> Julian, I have a question for you. On your oldish 7, do the drink holders still work?
5:43 pm:<Julian> Hey, its kind of working
5:43 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:43 pm:<Julian> So long as I do not but a BIG drink in there
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> well yours in a 1999, one more year and those will go
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> yeah the BIG drink did mine in I think ;-)
5:44 pm:<Julian> Has the front kind of detached?
5:44 pm:<Daniel> wife spilled a rootbeer on the passenger side floor..that was the end of drinks in the bimmer for me
5:44 pm:<Julian> Or the wife!!!
5:44 pm:<LS_Bill> you would like the extreme engineering of a BMW, they could design a drink holder that junk works ;-)
5:44 pm:<Julian> Actually mine is a 1999 but I am sure its a 1998 spec
5:44 pm:<Daniel> lo
5:45 pm:<Daniel> 740i?
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> lots of typos above
5:45 pm:<Julian> Aha 740 e37
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> yeah
5:45 pm:<Julian> e36
5:45 pm:<Julian> steptronic M
5:45 pm:<Daniel> huh 336 is a 3 series
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> mine is 740iL
5:45 pm:<Daniel> e36*
5:45 pm:<Julian> Long wheel base, nice
5:45 pm:<Daniel> oh Bill
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> lots of backseat room
5:45 pm:<Daniel> nice
5:46 pm:<Julian> The drinks holders in the back still work, send the wife there?
5:46 pm:<LS_Bill> ;-)
5:46 pm:<LS_Bill> that was daniel, not me
5:46 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:46 pm:<Julian> You can join her on the quite lay byes!"
5:46 pm:<Daniel> M3 Julian?
5:46 pm:<Julian> Its an M sport 740
5:47 pm:<Daniel> ah ok
5:47 pm:<Julian> kind of lowered suspension dechrome
5:47 pm:<Daniel> when u said e36 I assume 3 series
5:47 pm:<Julian> I know - its odd - but Germans have a series number and an incremental model number
5:47 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:48 pm:<Daniel> ah
5:48 pm:<LS_Bill> I had to order a new fog light recently, and I encountered that, e37 foglight was the on I got
5:48 pm:<Julian> What color is the car Bill?
5:48 pm:<Julian> Fog lights - I go through 3 a year, lenses at least
5:48 pm:<LS_Bill> Champaign
5:49 pm:<Julian> mine is black
5:49 pm:<Julian> black seats
5:50 pm:<LS_Bill> it's too hot here in Georgia for a black car, looks great though
5:50 pm:<Daniel> yeah
5:50 pm:<Daniel> cook eggs on hood
5:50 pm:<LS_Bill> yep
5:50 pm:<Julian> Oh yes - its a problem maybe once every 10 years in the UK
5:51 pm:<Daniel> spent 2 weeks in Florida..could not stay in the car a/c barlet helped
5:51 pm:<Daniel> barely*
5:51 pm:<LS_Bill> Georgia is where the King of England send his prisoners ;-)
5:51 pm:<LS_Bill> to suffer I guess
5:51 pm:<Julian> Well they got lucky as far as I can see!
5:51 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:52 pm:<LS_Bill> Georgia and Austrialia were prison colonies
5:53 pm:<Julian> Yes - I cannot believe it - we sent them on a great long bloody holiday (pardon my language)
5:53 pm:<jimbrowskii> lol
5:53 pm:<LS_Bill> it was an ordeal to get there back then ;-)
5:54 pm:<Daniel> next up Porsche Cayenne S..... less than a year...have to convince the wife I really need it...suits a 44year old family man living in Montreal with the snow ;-)
5:54 pm:<Julian> Bill - if I send (sorry for the IRT question !!) my colleauge Larry a copy of my Quote page with custom columns , will he automatically get the definations of the columns and indicators?
5:54 pm:<Julian> A a mid life crisis mobile
5:54 pm:<LS_Bill> yes, when you export a quotepage, IRT exports the custom column dependencies automatically
5:55 pm:<Daniel> yes thank God is an SUV though....can't get away with it if it was a Carrera
5:55 pm:<LS_Bill> e.g. custom indicator definitions will be exported if the cust column references them
5:55 pm:<Julian> Bill, I am not surprised - very solid
5:55 pm:<LS_Bill> the export is a text file, you can look at it with a text editor
5:56 pm:<Julian> Bill, larry has just place his order
5:56 pm:<LS_Bill> and see the various objects included
5:56 pm:<LS_Bill> ok, thanks.
5:58 pm:<Daniel> wow a mile stone has been reached...
5:58 pm:<Daniel> no one brought up a single OS X issue!!
5:58 pm:<Daniel> :-D
5:58 pm:<LS_Bill> til now
5:58 pm:<arno> LOL
5:59 pm:<Daniel> edit it out
5:59 pm:<Daniel> ;-)
5:59 pm:<LS_Bill> we have a half dozen OS Xers on Intel Macs now, running fine
6 pm:<Daniel> come on now we both know that my "fine" is a different kind of "fine" wait until I get an Intel Mac and want to run Ninja on it with IRT OSX
6:01 pm:<LS_Bill> Ninja will run on the Windows XP side, don't know if it will be able to talk to IRT on the OS X side, doubtful...
6:02 pm:<Daniel> OSX apps will run without XP
6:02 pm:<Daniel> sorry
6:02 pm:<Daniel> I meant...
6:02 pm:<Daniel> XP apps will run on OSX without XP
6:03 pm:<LS_Bill> that's news to me
6:03 pm:<Daniel> Leopard will have apis
6:03 pm:<Daniel> just as Classic runs inside TIger
6:03 pm:<Daniel> same concept
6:03 pm:<Daniel> but faster ofcourse
6:04 pm:<Daniel> not all apps automatically of course but many good ones
6:04 pm:<fcat> Bill
6:04 pm:<Daniel> a whole new ballgame
6:04 pm:<fcat> get mt db okay?
6:05 pm:<fcat> *my
6:05 pm:<LS_Bill> not yet. maybe tomorrow
6:05 pm:<Daniel> http://channels.lockergnome.com/osx/archives/20060424_leopard_to_run_windows_apps_via_api_just_like_os2_did.phtml
6:05 pm:<fcat> yes
6:06 pm:<fcat> should be there tomorrow would think
6:06 pm:<fcat> been a week
6:06 pm:<fcat> good old snail mail
6:06 pm:<fcat> I could have walked it there by now
6:07 pm:<Daniel> Leopard will ship before Vista and this alone with the Windows API embedded into the OS will make for wonderful holiday sales for MacIntel hardware.
6:07 pm:<Daniel> tahs a quote
6:07 pm:<Daniel> that's*
6:08 pm:<fcat> need new pmac replacement
6:08 pm:<fcat> here
6:08 pm:<Daniel> y
6:08 pm:<Daniel> I will wait and see how this develops before I buy another Mac
6:09 pm:<Daniel> prefer to run on a 17" MPB with a ACD..no more tower
6:09 pm:<fcat> will always use a mac for everyday use
6:09 pm:<fcat> one acd not enough for me
6:09 pm:<fcat> if it was would have a 17mbp sitting here already
6:09 pm:<Daniel> lol
6:09 pm:<fcat> may buy one anyway
6:10 pm:<fcat> my tibook is hurtin'
6:10 pm:<fcat> been dropped 3 or 4 times now
6:10 pm:<Daniel> yeah I trade 4 to 6 markets and only need 3 to 5 charts open at once..so 20+ 17 is enough
6:10 pm:<fcat> duct tape
6:10 pm:<fcat> the works
6:10 pm:<Daniel> lol
6:10 pm:<fcat> runs like a champ
6:10 pm:<fcat> :)