Chat Session Logs

4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> it's a paid room that trades on Market Profile charts Gayle
4:38 pm:<Gayle> ok thanks
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.jpjtrading.com/
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> cliff you had a question about floating windows?
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> chat windows do not have this option at present
4:38 pm:<Cliff> Thanks Bill
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> it's on paltalk
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> it has to be added window by window, and so far it's been done only for quotepages, charts of all kinds, time and sales
4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> chat is a good candidate to float, I'll get to it soon
4:39 pm:<Cliff> Once I create the custom indicators required, how hard is it to change the parameters?
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> MA(RSI)
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> MA(RSI )
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> easy
4:39 pm:<Cliff> Chad, not RSI, but Relative Strength
4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> in the CI setup window just double click on the token
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> double-click on the indicator in the chart....and can quickly get at prefs and change
4:40 pm:<Gayle> chad are you going to do any videos on creating trading systems in IRT?
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> ok.... MA(RS)
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> yea....will put that on my short term list Gayle
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> email me any specifics on what you're interested in testing...and I'll try to wrap a video around that
4:40 pm:<Cliff> Chad, once I've done that how hard to change MA length, MLR lengths, and relative Symbol?
4:41 pm:<LS_Bill> <LS_Bill> in the CI setup window just double click on the token, Cliff
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> you can keep the CI window open next to the chart...and just update as you want...every time you hit Save in the CI window...the chart will update to reflect change
4:41 pm:<LS_Bill> in the list on the right
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4:41 pm:<Cliff> OK, guys, I'll experiment with it in the next couple of days and shoot you an email with any questions
4:42 pm:<Cliff> Also, I noticed that there's no 24 hours session shown for stocks in Setup Instruments. How do I create one to cover Pre- and Post-?
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> I should probably create a video on creating custom indicators / signals / signal markers too
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> will do that next day or so cliff
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> session 31
4:43 pm:<EddyFt> that s best starting point chad..
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> yep
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> waiting on you to start creating videos for us Eddy ;)
4:43 pm:<Cliff> Cool, look forward to the video
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> you can create your own sessions Cliff
4:44 pm:<EddyFt> beware the french accent..
4:44 pm:<Cliff> isn't 31 for futures
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> the video "setting up symbols" might discuss that some I believe
4:44 pm:<Gayle> i LOVE french accents!
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> name doesn't matter cliff
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> just the times
4:44 pm:<EddyFt> lol
4:45 pm:<Cliff> I watched it last night, think it only covered futures symbols--don't forget that some of us still trade stocks :-)
4:45 pm:<Cliff> good to know on names v. times, thanks Chad
4:45 pm:<LS_Bill> stock are far easier, all you need is the ticker symbol.
4:45 pm:<EddyFt> you may just create new session with nasdaq pre & post session
4:48 pm:<EJM> ...
4:49 pm:<Mike> ....
4:49 pm:<Mike> $
4:49 pm:<PitBot> Dow @ 11,103.71 +52.66 0.48% 4:03 PM
4:49 pm:<PitBot> Nasdaq @ 2,073.90 +12.06 0.58% 4:49 PM
4:49 pm:<PitBot> S&P 500 @ 1,268.88 +7.97 0.63% 4:49 PM
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4:49 pm:<Mike> i emailed Jerry,  Bill hope i hear from him, i need new AT version
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4:52 pm:<Mike> bbl
4:52 pm:<Mike> keep chatting all... lol
4:53 pm:<EddyFt> thi is quite / btw Bill, how did u get this deal done with CBOT ?
4:53 pm:<EddyFt> quiet
4:54 pm:<Mike> yeah
4:55 pm:<Cliff> I was watching video last night on rolling over futures and was wondering: has DTN come up with continuous contracts yet?
4:55 pm:<LS_Bill> sorry I was answering an email
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> CBOT would like every data vendor and software company to license their trademark, it's a nice revenue stream for them
4:56 pm:<subq> i thought DTN have had continuous for a long time
4:56 pm:<EddyFt> for sure
4:57 pm:<EddyFt> did u had a tought about having a volume profile version only ?
4:57 pm:<Cliff> Well, I'm assuming if they have continuous contracts, then rollover isn't necessary--is that correct?
4:57 pm:<EddyFt> on top of MP only and a MP + Volume charts version ?
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> the work Chad has done on the Market Profile has put our Market Profile in the "professional league"
4:58 pm:<DanielX> ;-)
4:59 pm:<LS_Bill> and licensing the Market Profile name communicates that status clearly to clients and prospective users
4:59 pm:<LS_Bill> tip of the hat to Daniel, for his vision in this area...
4:59 pm:<EddyFt> i have to see that the rest of IRT looks like an add on to your Volume Charts when one watch the video...
4:59 pm:<DanielX> <<< bows
5 pm:<LS_Bill> Eddy, the volume profile only version you speak of will be release soon, under the Market Delta brand name
5 pm:<DanielX> Linnsoft have a fax #? I want to fax the Cbot agreement to you
5:01 pm:<LS_Bill> it will feature our volume profile chart, including out implementation of Market Delta's patent-pending "Footprint" display format
5:01 pm:<EddyFt> and this version is not available to us right now ?
5:01 pm:<EddyFt> sorry i am confused..
5:01 pm:<LS_Bill> we are in process of setting up a fax number for these Daniel
5:01 pm:<DanielX> ok
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> as an existing user of I/RT Eddy, you can get the MP and VP charting from us, if you signup by Friday of this week
5:02 pm:<DanielX> yes because that is a session separation
5:02 pm:<DanielX> opps
5:02 pm:<DanielX> wrong window
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> after that, a license to use the Market Delta branded product will be required.
5:02 pm:<EddyFt> but i don't have the option to sign for VP only, avoiding the CBOT fee, as i am no MP guy ?
5:03 pm:<EddyFt> but i am a VP guy :-)
5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> no Eddy
5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> we have no means of "signing up for VP"
5:03 pm:<DanielX> no!?
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> ok...uploading a video on basics of adding custom indicator or signal market to chart
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5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> but you can signup for MP by Friday to get the MP/VP in combo
5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> since you are an existing client
5:04 pm:<LS_Bill> the cost is $20/mo and we pay the cbot fees
5:04 pm:<Cliff> was I right about continuous futures eliminating the need for rollover?
5:04 pm:<Gayle> i know how to use signal markers but have no idea how to use the complete trading system in IRT
5:04 pm:<EddyFt> ok
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> yea....will get to that Gayle...that's more of a project
5:05 pm:<Gayle> yes i am sure that will be very involved and take a while to figure out the best way to teach it
5:05 pm:<LS_Bill> market delta will offer a Footprint product (Volume Profile) and a Footprint plus Market Profile product.
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> that will require a series of videos
5:06 pm:<Gayle> is IRT and MD doing some kind of business partnership?
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> yes Gayle...www.linnsoft.com/news
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> you didn't get the memo ;)
5:06 pm:<Gayle> i read the news but was not sure if the 2 companies were sort of merging
5:07 pm:<Hayden> Hi all, I'm wondering if Linnsoft has a page of arguments why TPO and the new offerings are "better" than the old IRT? I got the memo
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> partnership, not merge
5:07 pm:<LS_Bill> gee, I asked Noel to send private email to every Investor/RT user.
5:08 pm:<Hayden> As I say, I got mine, but if someone breezed through their email box, someone might have missed it
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> the new offering is just $20 to continue to get Market Profile (and Volume Profile) charts
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> not sure I understand your question Hayden
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5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> if you don't use TPO & VP, then it's not relevant to you
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> but if you do...then you just decide if it's worth $20 / mo more to continue to use it
5:09 pm:<Hayden> Understood Chad. I feel I have a system that I am happy with for now, so why would I want to change, unless the new features are really dynamite...
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> well...some would say they are
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> but might not be to you
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> if you haven't watched the videos...that might help
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> and might even want to watch the videos at marketdelta.com also in your evaluation
5:10 pm:<Hayden> Right, on the one hand I feel that TPO and I may me moving on similar paths, but I haven't watched the videos. They could answer my question better than anything
5:11 pm:<LS_Chad> well....if you want to get VP through us....you have a small window (through friday)
5:11 pm:<LS_Chad> but you can turn on TPO - Market Profile charts whenever you want going forward, for the $20/month
5:11 pm:<LS_Chad> and you can get VP charts also, but will have to go through MarketDelta to do so at the rates they decide upon
5:11 pm:<Hayden> OK, I'll hustle
5:12 pm:<Hayden> After Friday I just have to pay more, right?
5:12 pm:<LS_Bill> We encourage anyone who wants the volume profile features to signup before friday, leave it at that
5:13 pm:<LS_Chad> for VP, can't really say regarding what MD will charge....let's just say you would be taking a gamble
5:13 pm:<LS_Chad> maybe he'll charge less ;)
5:13 pm:<LS_Chad> but....maybe not
5:13 pm:<EddyFt> the fez is securing us getting access to new MP / VP development ?
5:13 pm:<Hayden> By the way, and FWIW, somebody just showed me some software where you record your voice and it automatically translates into editable text
5:14 pm:<LS_Chad> yes Eddy
5:14 pm:<EddyFt> ok
5:14 pm:<Hayden> Because I have blue eyes and am a nice guy?
5:14 pm:<LS_Bill> there is no long term committment on this hayden, signup and survey your options in a month or two
5:15 pm:<Hayden> Great
5:15 pm:<DanielX> I thought the yearly fees for perma licensees was securing us to all IRT development?
5:16 pm:<Hayden> Go Daniel, let's convince Bill he owes us, big time :-)
5:16 pm:<Gayle> i got the email but it did not talk about any partnership
5:16 pm:<Gayle> just what you had to do to sign up
5:16 pm:<LS_Chad> here ya go Cliff: http://www.linnsoft.com/videos/rtl/index.html
5:17 pm:<Gayle> i guess the email said affiliation but that is very vague
5:17 pm:<LS_Bill> IRT would not be what it is today without the creative suggestions and insights of our clients, those the drive the development process
5:17 pm:<Cliff> Hayden, what's the voice conversion software called?
5:18 pm:<LS_Bill> Market Deleta is a partner in the loose sense of the word
5:18 pm:<Cliff> I'm completely lost on the TPO and VP discussion; I don't presently trade futures, but am interested in following them, and possibly trading them in the future. Is there something I'm supposed to do to preserve some economic benefit in the future if I decide to use TPO and VP charts?
5:19 pm:<LS_Chad> yes, sign up for Market Profile (by emailing info@linnsoft.com and telling them to turn it on) by Friday
5:19 pm:<Hayden> Gulp, I can't tell you yet. Just saw it working for the first time today. Send me an email at knox101@vip.cybercity.dk and I'll tell you everything tomorrow.
5:19 pm:<LS_Chad> watch the TPO & VP videos in coming days to decide if you need it / want it
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> Market Delta will sell branded editions of Investor/Rt that include our implementation of their patent-pending display format.
5:20 pm:<Cliff> And is someone could answer my continuous contract question, I'd appreciate it--just want to know about continous eliminating need for rollover (I'm obviously a real futures rookie)
5:20 pm:<Hayden> It needs a $40 earphone-speaker thingy for the best recording
5:20 pm:<Cliff> OK, Chad, do I pay for having it turned on now if I don't use it?
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> Cliff.....eSignal does great job with this with ES #F
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> I"m not sure about DTN
5:20 pm:<DanielX> DTN good also
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> it seems that they may have a symbol....that gives daily only for continuous
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> ES# maybe
5:21 pm:<subq> dtn is a an excellent data provider from my understanding
5:21 pm:<LS_Chad> right guys
5:21 pm:<LS_Chad> we're talking about continous contract though
5:21 pm:<subq> in fact they have a few things esignal dont like premium on russel, etc etc
5:21 pm:<LS_Chad> anyone have insight on DTN's continuous contracts
5:21 pm:<subq> you may not need that though :)
5:21 pm:<LS_Chad> I was only speaking regarding that
5:21 pm:<subq> oh i thought they had one
5:21 pm:<subq> when i did a trial on them
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> I just tried @ES#
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> and it gave me daily data...very sketchy though
5:23 pm:<subq> did you try symbol root followed by @C
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> @ES# seems to work for intraday too Cliff
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> just got 1-min data on it
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> @ES@C gave me nothing
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> looks like just plug the # sign after root
5:29 pm:<Cliff> Thanks for checking it out, Chad. If it works, then rollover is unecessary, correct?
5:29 pm:<Cliff> Also, Chad what' s your email?
5:29 pm:<Cliff> Hayden, I just sent you an email. Thank you.
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5:30 pm:<LS_Chad> yea....should be
5:30 pm:<LS_Chad> chad@linnsoft.com
5:30 pm:<LS_Chad> that's the way esignal works
5:30 pm:<LS_Chad> the daily data of @ES# looks a little iffy
5:30 pm:<LS_Chad> but that may not matter to you
5:31 pm:<LS_Bill> DTN is still working out some kinks in their continuous historical data I'm told
5:31 pm:<LS_Bill> especially for daily bars
5:31 pm:<DanielX> i got garbel when trying to DL daily continous contract symbol at DTNMA
5:32 pm:<Cliff> Thanks guys for the info here--it sounds like until DTN gets the kinks worked out, I should be rolling over. Where on your website is the symbol and expiration info for the futures contracts?
5:33 pm:<LS_Chad> www.linnsoft.com/symbols
5:33 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, @ESU6 daily data looks good
5:34 pm:<LS_Chad> @ES# data not so good
5:34 pm:<DanielX> dang
5:34 pm:<LS_Chad> could always export @ESU6 daily data, edit, and import back into @ES#
5:34 pm:<LS_Chad> but a pain I know
5:35 pm:<LS_Chad> if daily is only important for pivots....pivot indicator can calc off other symbol
5:37 pm:<DanielX> right
5:38 pm:<DanielX> I remenber that
5:38 pm:<DanielX> thnx
5:38 pm:<Hayden> Cliff, I'm waiting for my emails to arrive. There might be a heavy file sent by the guy who showed us this recording software. I'll get back to you
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5:42 pm:<Cliff> Thanks Hayden, look forward to hearing from you. My email address is cwb1014@gmail.com.
5:42 pm:<Cliff> Thanks, Bill, Chad, everyone, speak to y'all soon...
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5:49 pm:<DanielX> Chad..price scale TPO issues?
5:51 pm:<DanielX> font locked and wont reduce when reducing with shift+arrow down
5:51 pm:<DanielX> only vertical space is reduced but the font appears locked at 12 or 14 pixels
5:52 pm:<LS_Chad> the prices aren't overlapping, right?
5:52 pm:<LS_Chad> you just want to allow them to go smaller
5:52 pm:<LS_Chad> I'll work with Bill getting this right on the Mac
5:53 pm:<LS_Chad> Windows side ok?
5:58 pm:<LS_Chad> heading out guys....have a good evening
5:59 pm:<Hayden> Bye all
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5:59 pm:<LS_Chad> I'm allowing font to go as high as 14, as low as 10
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6:06 pm:<DanielX> sorry stepped away
6:06 pm:<DanielX> let me check
6:06 pm:<DanielX> no overlap
6:07 pm:<DanielX> Im on a PC Chad
6:07 pm:<DanielX> XP
6:07 pm:<DanielX> Mac I no loner used
6:07 pm:<DanielX> longer*
6:07 pm:<DanielX> 10 is too big
6:08 pm:<DanielX> needs to mathc the TPOs
6:08 pm:<DanielX> 7 please!
6:08 pm:<DanielX> let it go down to the smallest thatthe TPOs themselves go to before they change to blocks
6:09 pm:<DanielX> that is a new feature you added right?
6:09 pm:<LS_Bill> right, it changes to block below 10 now I think
6:09 pm:<DanielX> below 7
6:09 pm:<LS_Bill> because some users complained that the letters become too fuzzy to read below that
6:10 pm:<LS_Chad> 7 seems a little small....seems unreadable
6:10 pm:<LS_Chad> I guess barely
6:10 pm:<LS_Chad> 8 is ok
6:10 pm:<DanielX> ok 8
6:10 pm:<LS_Bill> on the Mac 9 should be the min
6:10 pm:<DanielX> i have a good screen
6:10 pm:<DanielX> 1600x 1200
6:10 pm:<LS_Bill> 8 point fonts don't look good on the mac in my experience.
6:10 pm:<LS_Chad> 8 looks ok
6:10 pm:<LS_Chad> 7 looks ugly and unreadable
6:10 pm:<DanielX> even 6 is clear
6:11 pm:<LS_Chad> I'll do 8
6:11 pm:<DanielX> ok
6:11 pm:<DanielX> thnx
6:11 pm:<LS_Chad> because if I allowed 7...then there would be alot of 7 pixels scale fonts....just don't want that....so 8 it is
6:11 pm:<DanielX> ok
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6:13 pm:<DanielX> Bill Lcd on Mac?
6:13 pm:<DanielX> big difference
6:13 pm:<DanielX> Apple Cinema Display
6:14 pm:<DanielX> oh BTW Bill..the NT5 fix you did yeilded no improvement
6:14 pm:<DanielX> price ladder click to NT5 submission 8 to 15 seconds
6:15 pm:<DanielX> with Stop_TR and Target_TR tokens
6:15 pm:<LS_Bill> not good
6:16 pm:<DanielX> that is a T.O. set up to set V# and then send order
6:17 pm:<subq> i stepped away chad did you say you got continuous ok on dtn @ES# ?
6:18 pm:<LS_Chad> y
6:18 pm:<LS_Chad> gotta run...later
6:19 pm:<DanielX> ciao
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6:24 pm:<Mike> back
6:25 pm:<Mike> log posted?
6:26 pm:<Mike> MP has a $84 a year fee i se
6:26 pm:<Mike> see
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