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4:32 pm:<subq> ghost nick!
4:32 pm:<Mike> Hello Cliff, Welcome to Linn Software's chat room.
4:32 pm:<subq> ok im here for a littel bit then i have a meeting to go to today
4:32 pm:<Mike> smae here
4:32 pm:<LS_Noel> did Chad leave?
4:33 pm:<Mike> his name is here
4:33 pm:<subq> he is still in channel
4:34 pm:<subq> so we have to download new software for volume profile after next week?
4:34 pm:<Mike> still on 8 41 here maybe forever
4:34 pm:<Mike> until reg code expires at least
4:36 pm:<Mike> Bill or chad for chat today?
4:36 pm:<Mike> Else you have to handle it Noel :)
4:36 pm:<Mike> you ready?
4:36 pm:<LS_Chad> Might not be until Sept 1 that we have the MarketDelta installers ready
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> but eventually, yes, you'll have to download/install the MD version
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> to continue to get VP
4:37 pm:<subq> yeah i thought it was setp1
4:37 pm:<subq> sept1
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> sorry, meant Oct. 1
4:37 pm:<subq> oh :)
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> but I'm not sure...Bill is doing much of the work on that
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> his power is down...temporarily....might make it in later
4:37 pm:<Mike> wha tis he doing Chad?
4:37 pm:<Mike> is
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> we hope to have 8.5.1 out in next day or two
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> it's not storm related however, power company is doing some work around his house
4:38 pm:<Mike> Chad what is he doing? a md only irt or md and irt? new feeds what he making exactly?
4:39 pm:<subq> going to have to show you some dynamic weirdness whenever i get a chance chad
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> but I do have storm coming through here now :)
4:39 pm:<subq> if i change the history to longer than x days the whole profile goes wacky
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> ok
4:39 pm:<subq> im ordering a new PC too since accessing a lot of data is slow
4:39 pm:<subq> no way the new pc should bog
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> in 8.5.1, I've added ability to merge or split profiles at will
4:40 pm:<subq> duo e6600, 2gb ram, 10k raptor HD
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> can right-click on any profile, and choose "merge right"...and it will merge together with profile to it's right
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> can right-click on any letter and choose "split at letter"...and will break the day apart at that letter
4:40 pm:<subq> have you added more than show 29 days?
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> "if I change the whole profile to longer than x days"....what do you mean by that exactly?
4:41 pm:<subq> that seems to be limiting me on naked POCs
4:41 pm:<subq> i mean like if i have a dynamic and i have show 5 days selected
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> I've also added a great deal of drawing efficiency in this release
4:41 pm:<subq> if i change to 20 days the profiles totally change
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> for MP charts
4:41 pm:<subq> only changing the show X days Ending Now
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, I would expect it to change
4:41 pm:<subq> why is that?
4:42 pm:*** LS_Bill has joined us
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> just due to the nature of how dynamic is formed
4:42 pm:<Mike> Hello LS_Bill, Welcome to Linn Software's chat room.
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> different starting points, can result in different structures/profiles
4:42 pm:<subq> so if i use the dynamic 7:3 everyone talks about in here
4:42 pm:<subq> the weird thing is...it will stay the same until i hit a certain number
4:42 pm:<subq> so like anywhere from 1-15 days same profiles
4:42 pm:<subq> once i go abvoe that diff profiles
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> take for example..let's say your profile started 8/1
4:43 pm:<subq> can you explain the way dynamic is formed one more time
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> well, you might get a new profile on 2nd letter of 8/2
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> but if your profile starts on 8/2, can't get a new profile until 7th letter of 8/2
4:43 pm:<subq> the first number number is min number of periods
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> and that type thing can continue to propigate
4:43 pm:<Mike> Bill get my email?
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> yes, 7-3
4:43 pm:<subq> second number is what?
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> 7 means there are at least 7 letters per profile
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> 3 means price must break out of last 3 letters to begin new profile
4:44 pm:<subq> and break out is defined as what?
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> price break out of range of those last 3 letters
4:44 pm:<subq> so if letter a,b,c all had the same high and letter d went higher
4:44 pm:<subq> is that a break out?
4:45 pm:<subq> or do you need 3 consecutive higher letters?
4:46 pm:<subq> im just not clear on exactly what the criteria are
4:46 pm:<Mike> agree
4:47 pm:<subq> i bet if i saw the formula i would be clear
4:47 pm:<Mike> Bill here???
4:47 pm:<Mike> should be info on it be best
4:47 pm:<LS_Bill> yes, I'm here now
4:47 pm:<Mike> but might not be yet
4:47 pm:<Mike> did you get my email?
4:47 pm:<subq> if new letter higher than last 3 letters then new profile, or if last profile higher than previous profile x 3 then new profile
4:48 pm:<LS_Chad> this release will also have the new Open/Close bars on VP charts: http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/08/22/myVP.png
4:49 pm:<Mike> blue line is open?
4:49 pm:<subq> little blue line is open
4:50 pm:<Mike> be neater if they drew over grid lines! ie a solid painted bar!
4:50 pm:<LS_Chad> subq, if price breaks above high of previous 3 letters, or below low of previous 3 letters, that letter that broke out becomes first letter of new profile
4:50 pm:<subq> oh ok so it is the lowest price in the previous 3 letters
4:50 pm:<subq> i am clear now
4:50 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, blue line is open, but not really needed anymore...since open is easy to determine from O/C bar
4:50 pm:<subq> or highest high in the previous 3 letters
4:51 pm:<LS_Chad> yes
4:51 pm:<subq> thats easy enough :)
4:51 pm:<LS_Bill> why does every name in the list begin with @ ?
4:51 pm:<subq> new vp, if closes higher than open green bar, closes lower than open red bar
4:51 pm:<Mike> we all opps means nothing really
4:52 pm:<LS_Bill> e.g. @Mike, @subq
4:52 pm:<subq> and the length of the bar is what?
4:52 pm:<subq> open to close is length looks like
4:52 pm:<Arno> is there a way to put color bars onto a MACD chart so it can overlay the zero line
4:52 pm:<Mike> bill any IB o vernight connection improvemnts? or you to busy?
4:52 pm:<subq> stuff outisde left bar is just range almost like an o/h/l/c bar chart :)
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> arno....not sure what you mean
4:55 pm:<LS_Bill> too busy Mike
4:55 pm:<LS_Bill> I have to reboot brb
4:55 pm:<Arno> if i have a macd chart ( for instance)
4:55 pm:*** LS_Bill has left
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> ok
4:55 pm:<Mike> chad he wants price bars in macd pane
4:56 pm:<Arno> and I want to add some custom indictator that changes color using a color bar with a height of 5pixels..
4:56 pm:<Mike> arno can do need multi scaling is all
4:56 pm:<Arno> ok - right now color bar is x pix from top or bottom...
4:56 pm:<Arno> i'd like in center of MACD pane (for instance)...
4:57 pm:<Arno> I'll try multi scale
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> you want something like this? http://www.linnsoft.com/tour/techind/color.htm
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> Color Markers?
4:57 pm:*** LS_Bill has joined us
4:58 pm:<Arno> yeah - I can do that already... but I'd like to overlay another chart and have the color markers show up in the center of the chart
4:58 pm:<Arno> let me play with multi scale
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> yea..color markers can go across center of chart
4:59 pm:<Mike> can overlay candles forsure
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> offset from top, 50%...height: 5 pixels
4:59 pm:<Arno> aah maybe it was the 50% let me check..
5 pm:<Mike> ok Bill fyi still daily problems keepign feed goign to ib at night all night etc... scheduel no help nada fyi
5:01 pm:<subq> the big program hurdle is fib on MP charts :)
5:01 pm:<Arno> thanks guys that did it.... 50% of pane
5:01 pm:<subq> when you going to tackle that one chad?
5:01 pm:<subq> being able to draw them I mean
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/08/22/CandleChart_10.png
5:02 pm:<subq> or maybe even linking other MP chart stuff to candlecharts
5:02 pm:<subq> like naked POCs
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> you want to be able to specify any two prices on MP chart..and have fib lines drawn off those lines?
5:02 pm:<Mike> sub my chart has mp stuff on candles
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> you can get alot of the MP stuff into candle charts
5:03 pm:<subq> i want to be able to draw fib lines on the MP chart
5:03 pm:<subq> i really only look at a MP chart
5:03 pm:<subq> and a lot of times i want to see fib since MP is a vertical chart
5:03 pm:<Mike_PC> http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/08/19/IRT_Mike2.png
5:03 pm:<Mike_PC> all mp stuff sub
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> the first "Market Profile Reference Lines" video discusses this
5:03 pm:<subq> i thought you could only do previous day vah, val, poc and developing
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> yea....no naked poc stuff
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> I could add maybe a "=NPODU" and "=NPOCD" for that
5:05 pm:<subq> would show first upper and first lower nPOC what would be good
5:05 pm:<LS_Chad> you mean, draw fib lines on a MP chart with split letters subq?
5:05 pm:<subq> split letters would make it easier yeah
5:06 pm:<subq> since you could do a fib on one letter
5:06 pm:<subq> or 3
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> maybe I could do it where you specify one ref line with label "FIBU" and one with label "FIBD" and those would be two fib prices...lines drawn off that
5:07 pm:<subq> that would probably even work
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> and maybe give you shortcuts to assign those prices
5:07 pm:<subq> yeah some sort of altclick or something would be close enough to dragging
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> right click on a price and choose "assign fib lower", etc
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> well....new merge/split stuff has pretty well consumed the ctrl & shift-click combos
5:08 pm:<subq> oh
5:09 pm:<Mike> other Questiosn folks?
5:09 pm:<Mike> Cliff, Arno seem newer names here...
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> ctrl-click to merge prof right
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> shift-click to split profile
5:10 pm:<LS_Chad> ctrl-shift click to undo any merging/splitting
5:11 pm:<LS_Chad> the drawing code is much more efficient now...those of you keeping longer term MP charts open (10 profiles+ ) open...will see much improved drawing...much less flickering
5:12 pm:<Arno> no more questions from me...
5:12 pm:<subq> that will be nice
5:12 pm:<Mike> any vb indicator improv ements?
5:12 pm:<subq> mine flickers like crazy :)
5:12 pm:<Arno> Mike usually answers 'em late at night :-)
5:13 pm:<Mike> :)
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> you have black background subq?
5:15 pm:<subq> yep
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> well..that contributes to it too
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> darker the background, more flicker it seems
5:17 pm:<subq> yeah its just weird because if you have volume on
5:17 pm:<subq> that doesnt flicker
5:17 pm:<subq> only letters do
5:17 pm:<subq> i know drawn differently :)
5:17 pm:<Mike_PC> chad can those vp bars draw over grid lines maybe?
5:18 pm:<subq> http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/08/22/ER2_MP_4.png
5:18 pm:<LS_Chad> Cliff...you there
5:18 pm:<subq> black background :)
5:18 pm:<subq> ok i have to head to a meeting
5:18 pm:<subq> catch up with you guys later
5:19 pm:<LS_Chad> see ya
5:20 pm:<Arno> not too many people here today
5:22 pm:<LS_Bill> storm brewing here, I'm going to sign off and shut down.
5:22 pm:<LS_Bill> have a nice evening everyone
5:22 pm:*** LS_Bill has left
5:25 pm:<Mike> been backtesting yet Chad?
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> not yet
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> anything else guys...about to run myself
5:28 pm:<Mike> post chat log ples
5:28 pm:<Mike> night all
5:28 pm:<Arno> no - go home Chad lol
5:28 pm:<Mike> i bbl
5:28 pm:<Arno> see ya Mike