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4:39 pm:<Mike> yes I used wrong key combo is all thanks I use shift+ now thx
4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> I guess you're not a happy camper zonez
4:39 pm:<Mike> yes need it daily Bill
4:39 pm:<zonez> no mixing of data noticed
4:39 pm:<LS_Bill> good, Hayden said the same
4:40 pm:<zonez> hell bill I'm always happy :)
4:40 pm:<LS_Bill> ;-)
4:40 pm:<LS_Bill> what does "new vs better" mean then? ;-)
4:40 pm:<zonez> just trying to help resolve this profile gap issue
4:41 pm:<LS_Bill> ah. I'll let chad address that. one sec
4:41 pm:<zonez> better= no tic mixing between instruments
4:41 pm:<Hayden1> I don't see any names in the chat room. Am I too early?
4:41 pm:<zonez> re-load hayden
4:41 pm:<LS_Bill> there are about nine Hayden
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> Hey zonez...just looking at your email now
4:43 pm:<zonez> ok chad , i nn the mean tiome i have a ? for bill
4:43 pm:<Mike> maybe Dan knows Zones
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> zonez....how many days of tick data do you have IRT setup to retain (in "Setup: Prefs: Historical")
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> as TPO charts require tick data in order to accurately compute
4:44 pm:<zonez> Bill, when i lose my IB connection it does not re-connect automaticlly
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> that could be problem...your tick data could be getting converted to 1-minute data at end of session
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> thus resulting in gaps
4:44 pm:<zonez> 10 days i think chad
4:45 pm:<zonez> which setting should i check?
4:45 pm:<LS_Bill> zonez, the auto reconnect is not implemented, it's in the preferences but not implemented
4:46 pm:<LS_Bill> there are times when TWS simply loses it connection with IB so it disconnects IRT
4:46 pm:<LS_Bill> there is no point in reconnecting is there?
4:46 pm:<Steve_W> Boy 3 of me
4:46 pm:<Mike> i hardly ever lose tws to ib commection
4:46 pm:<Steve_W> Hi al
4:46 pm:<Steve_W> all
4:47 pm:<zonez> so bill, while there is an auto- reconnect, it is not functional?
4:47 pm:<MPx> doesnt it close and lose connection at night?
4:47 pm:<Mike> yes that only time
4:47 pm:<LS_Bill> when do you lose TWS connect zonez, during market hours,
4:47 pm:<LS_Bill> ?
4:47 pm:<zonez> y bill
4:47 pm:<LS_Chad> zones, go to "Setup: Preferences: Historical"
4:47 pm:<zonez> there chad
4:47 pm:<LS_Bill> you can create a schedule that runs once a minute and does a "Start Data"command
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> that will keep the feed active
4:48 pm:<zonez> ok bill
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> the command is ingored if the connect is already active, otherwise it will reconnect
4:49 pm:<zonez> ok chad here is what i have :
4:49 pm:<LS_Chad> and you have 10 days specified for "tick" data there?
4:51 pm:<zonez> tick 0, intra 10 daily 756 weekly 5yrs, moly 10 yrs days od 1min
4:51 pm:<Steve_W> bILL, I just had a fatal while optimizing in 8.1.1
4:51 pm:<zonez> Paddles !!!!!!
4:51 pm:<LS_Chad> there ya go
4:51 pm:<zonez> lol :)
4:51 pm:<Steve_W> 004083F5
4:51 pm:<LS_Chad> change tick to "10"
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> your tick data is getting converted to 1-min data at the end of every session
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> that's likely resulting in the gaps
4:52 pm:<tuna> XP updates today boyz
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> tell me more steve
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> so make that change...download a few days of tick dat.and should be ok from here forward
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> u optimizing on 27 parameters for 8000 stocks right?
4:53 pm:<zonez> chad, so my intra day = 10days of 1 min data ? is that a conflict?
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> and it crashes after running for 47 hours right?
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> no...that's fine
4:54 pm:<Steve_W> It was quite strange At the time the error happened there was no monitor connected as I was using it to upgrade another system.
4:54 pm:<Steve_W> When I plugged the monitor back in I had the error mssage
4:54 pm:<zonez> ok then tick = 10 intraday = 10 days of 1 min is ok?
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> y
4:55 pm:<Steve_W> I may ave inadvertantly trapped the keyboard b mistKE AS i OFTEN DO WHEN THERE IS MORE THAN 1 KEYBOARD PRESENT
4:55 pm:<zonez> thx chad, Bill i will try my connect schedule now
4:55 pm:<IRT_User> Hi, I couldn't reach chat via IRT. Anyone else have that problem?
4:55 pm:<Steve_W> u KNOW BILL IT HAD BEEN ON FR A WHILE
4:55 pm:<LS_Bill> what version of IRT are you using
4:55 pm:<Steve_W> oops
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> IRT_User, what version?
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> we had a chat connect problem a few releases ago with the IB version
4:56 pm:<IRT_User> 8.1.1, sorry, it's me, Hayden
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> but no problems in the current 8.1 release
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> oh, okay
4:57 pm:<Steve_W> bill were you asking me about 47 hours?
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> what did the error message say, Hayden?
4:57 pm:<MPx> no problem up here or below
4:57 pm:<Daniel> down here :-)
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> I was just fishing for what you were up to, anything "unusal" about your opti run?
4:59 pm:<Steve_W> no except fdor me blindly tapping the keyboard a few times by mistake...the opti is straightforward. Just before the error message in the log is another error message
4:59 pm:<IRT_User> Didn't have any names on the right. I could type but no response
4:59 pm:<Steve_W> Object window 153 is invalid
4:59 pm:<IRT_User> Here I'm in Java chat and can't get system to recognize nickname
5 pm:<IRT_User> I just closed IB and AT, I'll see if I can get back in via IRT
5 pm:<Steve_W> Hayden I just downloaded NetIRC for windows its free and is working fine
5 pm:<LS_Chad> By the way...next version should include "Last X Days" view period for tick-based periodicity charts
5 pm:<Mike> that GREAT news Chad!
5 pm:<Mike> it relative also right?
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> yes
5:01 pm:<Mike> excellent
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> and NO, it does not auto-reset bars at begin of each day
5:01 pm:<LS_Bill> steve, that code 153 is the code for the optimization window
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> still can have a bar that crosses session boundaries
5:01 pm:<Mike> well can that be done then?
5:01 pm:<zonez> Bill let me know when you can aid me w/ my IB connect schedule
5:01 pm:<Steve_W> Bill what does the fatal error code refer to
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> that could mean that the window was in the process of closing or something
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> maybe you hit the esc key a few too many times or something.
5:02 pm:<Steve_W> Thats the other odd thing bill....when I saw the fatal error message when I plugged the monitor back in....the opti window was gone
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> there is a cancel button in the opti window
5:03 pm:<Steve_W> esc was defintely a key that was tapped
5:03 pm:<Steve_W> and shft and spacebar
5:03 pm:<MPx> Chad...I have another TPO enhancement request when you're ready
5:04 pm:<Steve_W> Well I'm sure it was me somehow causing whatever happened. 8.11 has been runnig great
5:05 pm:<Mike> chad can tick based bars start at a 0 tick each day/session in future?
5:05 pm:<Steve_W> Somehow I got feedback in the main message and I don't know how I did it but would likle to know how to do it again
5:05 pm:<LS_Bill> if you can reproduce the error by some combo or keystrokes let me know
5:05 pm:<Steve_W> how is that enabled?
5:06 pm:<LS_Bill> in the opti setup window
5:07 pm:<LS_Bill> checkbox in the lower left corner
5:07 pm:<LS_Bill> that is for monitoring progress in the message log
5:07 pm:<LS_Bill> keep the message log window open to monitor progress
5:09 pm:<MPx> Mike what version of IRT are you using with OS X?
5:09 pm:<Mike> 811 latest always
5:09 pm:<MPx> open a TPO chart or ER
5:09 pm:<MPx> *of
5:10 pm:<Mike> opened
5:10 pm:<MPx> leave it open
5:10 pm:<MPx> turn on VA POC IB
5:10 pm:<MPx> slap a couple of ref lines
5:10 pm:<zonez> bill, seeking help w/ the ib re-connect schedule at will
5:10 pm:<LS_Chad> Steve, I was able to reproduce the crash....you probably just hit the Esc key twice....which results in this crash
5:10 pm:<LS_Chad> we'll get it fixed
5:10 pm:<LS_Bill> mpx did you get my email about that OS X fix for 8.1.1?
5:11 pm:<MPx> nope
5:11 pm:<MPx> ot after I sent crash log and the DOH! response
5:11 pm:<Steve_W> ok thanks chad I'm sure I hit it more than twice
5:11 pm:<MPx> nothing sice
5:11 pm:<MPx> since
5:11 pm:<MPx> Chad I have another enhancment
5:11 pm:<MPx> the ability to split the day into sections...exactly how we have the ability to do it with the "profile " indicator.
5:12 pm:<LS_Bill> the OS X installer was fixed yesterday morning to fix that bug you reported with the TPO preferences
5:12 pm:<Steve_W> Bill I have a suggestion for Opti.....an ehancement of sorts.
5:12 pm:<LS_Bill> that report you sent this a.m. did not lead anywhere, there was no indication of where the problem was
5:13 pm:<MPx> :-(
5:13 pm:<MPx> u should see what the screen looks like when it crashes
5:14 pm:<MPx> running 8.05.noproblems
5:14 pm:<MPx> Mike it still open?
5:14 pm:<MPx> and running?
5:14 pm:<Mike> y
5:14 pm:<MPx> k
5:14 pm:<MPx> wait
5:14 pm:<MPx> have ref lines on?
5:14 pm:<zonez> bill have a ? re scheduling function
5:14 pm:<MPx> and the IB POC VA?
5:15 pm:<LS_Bill> ok zonez
5:15 pm:<Steve_W> As bckground I have spent literally days staring at and trying to figure out why sometimes my V# don't opti and sometimes they do. I went around and around....../I ffinally foumd that if I closed IRT after I had prepared the BT, and then restarted IRT the OPTI would properly use the V#s.
5:15 pm:<zonez> the only scedule option i find is a down load schedule
5:15 pm:<zonez> s that what u ref?
5:16 pm:<zonez> under setup/ schedule?
5:16 pm:<LS_Bill> schedule action is "Start Data"
5:16 pm:<LS_Bill> create a new schedule having one action
5:17 pm:<LS_Bill> Setup-->Schedule yes
5:17 pm:<Steve_W> I mentioned this probem to Chad and he advised to make sure the BTv was saved before running the Opti. This was the answer.....owever it was not obvious to me...ad I think others might have problems too.
5:17 pm:<zonez> ok i have no schedules now
5:17 pm:<LS_Bill> so you're saying we should not "run" the opti until it has been saved
5:17 pm:<Steve_W> Perhaps when the opti button is clicked on the BT scree a window could appear that says the BT has not been saved....etc.
5:18 pm:<Mike> also re Opti any thnoughts Chad on having opti "hone" in on best result? that Express I never figured out easily how to set starting variables
5:18 pm:<LS_Bill> sounds right, steve
5:18 pm:<Steve_W> or just save the bt when opti is opened
5:18 pm:<LS_Bill> or save it every time you run
5:19 pm:<Steve_W> I noticed recentl that when one clicjks backtest the BT is first saved
5:19 pm:<Steve_W> mabe the opti could start that way
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> yes
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> if the trading system has been modified, we do a save before we run it
5:20 pm:<Steve_W> saving the underlying bt
5:20 pm:<zonez> ok bill, create new sched/every 1 min/ during session/ 24 hr
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> sounds ok zonez
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> now, click new on the event side of the window
5:21 pm:<LS_Bill> and pick Start Data as the action
5:21 pm:<Steve_W> I used to do that for DTN satellite...start data every minute
5:22 pm:<LS_Bill> zonez, let me know how this works for you. I have not received any reports from anyone else of TWS disconnects during market hours
5:22 pm:<LS_Bill> it's just a "local" program to program connection, not a remote connection,
5:24 pm:<zonez> ok bill i think i have the schedule set, will advise of disconnects, i have had this occur a few times now, will advise
5:25 pm:<LS_Bill> ok thanks
5:25 pm:<zonez> thanks for your comminment to your program
5:25 pm:<tuna> zones
5:25 pm:<zonez> chad, bill
5:25 pm:* zonez slaps tuna around a bit with a large trout
5:25 pm:<tuna> do the singles show now?
5:26 pm:<LS_Bill> one sec, brb
5:26 pm:<tuna> zonez?
5:27 pm:<zonez> no tuna will try to refresh charts some how or re load
5:27 pm:<tuna> k
5:27 pm:<tuna> weird
5:27 pm:<tuna> gloves were there
5:28 pm:<zonez> 633.6 y
5:28 pm:<zonez> 633.6 no
5:29 pm:<tuna> ?
5:29 pm:<MPx> Mike it still open?
5:29 pm:<Steve_W> The fundamental data that we get from yahoo.... is that all they offer? because there is tons more that they give in there webpage
5:29 pm:<Steve_W> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=ibm
5:29 pm:<tuna> glove showed 634.4 and 633.6
5:30 pm:<zonez> rgr tuna
5:30 pm:<tuna> rgr?
5:30 pm:<zonez> will re-dwn load & scrubb data
5:30 pm:<tuna> k
5:32 pm:<zonez> Got em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
5:32 pm:<zonez> tuna
5:33 pm:<tuna> cool
5:33 pm:<zonez> did today'd es finish w/ dbl tpo's @ the top?
5:33 pm:<tuna> kinda like clearing chart data on QT
5:34 pm:<tuna> no single ticked it
5:34 pm:<tuna> 1198
5:35 pm:<zonez> ok, w/ DEF right under it?
5:35 pm:<tuna> ya
5:35 pm:<zonez> kool ok
5:36 pm:<zonez> that's all i have for ya guys thx a bunch, we'll get that Jug back Bill!!!!!!!!1111
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> !!
5:36 pm:<zonez> lol
5:37 pm:<LS_Bill> haven't watched too many games this year, but I did see that one -- ugh.
5:37 pm:<zonez> tough yr
5:37 pm:<zonez> lol
5:37 pm:<LS_Bill> yep
5:38 pm:<zonez> ok thx to all, 2nd cocktail time!!
5:38 pm:<MPx> so me is stuck with 8.05 until bug is found
5:39 pm:<MPx> it won't crash if I have only candle charts open
5:39 pm:<MPx> open TPO...soon after BOOM!
5:39 pm:<MPx> 10 mins around
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> send him your data_f files, compacted archive
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> send in
5:41 pm:<MPx> k
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> this does not seem to be OS X specific
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> but may be specific you to your setup
5:42 pm:<tuna> MPx may i ask are u in any MP rooms?
5:42 pm:<MPx> nope
5:42 pm:<tuna> k
5:42 pm:<MPx> cant be Bill
5:42 pm:<MPx> tell you why
5:43 pm:<MPx> only started doing it from 8.1
5:43 pm:<MPx> nothing on system changed
5:43 pm:<MPx> if I open TPOs it crashes
5:43 pm:<MPx> only candles no problem
5:44 pm:<MPx> not setup specific
5:44 pm:<MPx> the charts fill with all kinds of funky artifacts and lines...then it quits
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> ok, I'll run your setup on my Os X machine tomorrow and see what I can find
5:45 pm:<MPx> I can send my whole data f
5:45 pm:<LS_Chad> it is likely to be setup specific...
5:45 pm:<MPx> how big?
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> are you running with automatic price or using custom range
5:45 pm:<LS_Chad> if you'll send the details of how your chart is setup....we'll look into it
5:45 pm:<MPx> both
5:45 pm:<LS_Chad> or send data_f
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> follow the instructions on the web site
5:45 pm:<MPx> k
5:46 pm:<LS_Bill> http://www.linnsoft.com/tutorials/sendingDatabase.htm
5:46 pm:<MPx> k
5:46 pm:<LS_Chad> if you create a new basic tpo chart...
5:46 pm:<MPx> because running fine in 8.5 allday
5:46 pm:<LS_Chad> then add options...until you get your crash
5:46 pm:<MPx> k
5:46 pm:<LS_Chad> you can probably pinpoint what's causing it
5:46 pm:<MPx> there is a 10-15 delay
5:46 pm:<LS_Bill> I have to run, I'll be in touch w/ you tomorrow daniel.
5:47 pm:<MPx> min*
5:47 pm:<MPx> k
5:48 pm:<MPx> tuna ...I have not found one serious MP room
5:48 pm:<MPx> all bogus
5:49 pm:<MPx> splicing MP with indicators
5:49 pm:<MPx> scalpers
5:49 pm:<tuna> zonez glove glars and i are in jp's paltalk room
5:50 pm:<tuna> was wondering if there were any others
5:50 pm:<MPx> yes but I won't pay $200 for stuff I already know and stuff I have they don't know.
5:50 pm:<MPx> all his material is copied form the Cbot Manual
5:50 pm:<MPx> the stuff he sends out
5:51 pm:<tuna> yup