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4:33 pm:<LS_Bill> there is a folder inside the irt startup folder named "charts"
4:33 pm:<LS_Bill> you can put chart defs there if you like
4:33 pm:<LS_Bill> or make your own folder wherever you like
4:33 pm:<buddha> ok i have a txt file how do i convert to def file?
4:34 pm:<LS_Bill> def files are "text" files, with .txt file extensions
4:34 pm:<LS_Bill> do you want to import a def file?
4:34 pm:<buddha> yes a template
4:35 pm:<LS_Bill> to import a def file, use File: Import: Chart Definition
4:35 pm:<buddha> and it will save in chart folder automatically?
4:36 pm:<LS_Bill> no, it will import the def into the IRT system (into the database) and show the chart
4:37 pm:<buddha> ok let me try
4:38 pm:<MPx> Bill that new beta you let me try cannot even get past the setup before it crashes...I even tried a virgin install just now and it crashed few minutes after launch.
4:38 pm:<MPx> crashing virgin..imagine that
4:39 pm:<MPx> Rob which version re you running?
4:39 pm:<Rob388> 8.2 or 8.1.2 the new one
4:39 pm:<MPx> ok
4:39 pm:<MPx> which data vendor?
4:39 pm:<Rob388> dtniq
4:39 pm:<MPx> thnx
4:39 pm:<Rob388> de nada
4:41 pm:<Rob388> First time I installed it would crash, Bill had me delete an IR folder.
4:41 pm:<Rob388> IRT folder
4:41 pm:<MPx> y
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> MPx, it's crashing just creating a basic 1-day TPO chart...
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> or using some of the new features?
4:42 pm:<Rob388> I am talking about first time 3 wks ago, not latest version
4:42 pm:<MPx> I'm afraid it's probably not related to charts
4:43 pm:<MPx> I just tried to do a fresh install just now
4:43 pm:<MPx> new new
4:43 pm:<MPx> BOOM
4:43 pm:<MPx> minutes after it launched
4:43 pm:<MPx> trying again
4:44 pm:<MPx> oh ok
4:44 pm:<MPx> I'm trying 8.1.2a
4:48 pm:<Rob388> I have a few questions, can I go ahead?
4:49 pm:<MPx> go ahead
4:50 pm:<MPx> I'm installing virgin IRT and setting up
4:51 pm:<Rob388> OK, I have the RT professional pkg, Can I go back to a pt in time say 4 hours ago and step forward in increments to see how my indicators move? or do I need one of the add on modules?
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> IRT does not have a playback facility
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> however, you can scroll your chart back in time to any starting point you wish
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> use the right-arrow on the scroll bar to move forward one bar at a time
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> and then click the right-arrow in the chart scrollbar to advance one bar at a time
4:55 pm:<Rob388> I have straight line linear reg chls, they will not move doing that.
4:55 pm:<tuna> would i need the pro version to have a bar chart of the adv/decline ratio using iqfeed?,,they have adv issues and declining, but its 2 separate data streams
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> are you using the automated regression lines, Rob?
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> automated using last X bar?
4:56 pm:<Rob388> yes
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> tuna, you can define a custom instrument
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> that does not require Pro version
4:57 pm:<tuna> thx bill
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> Setup: Custom Instrument, define the ratio of two tickers there.
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> what is periodicity of chart, Rob?
4:57 pm:<Rob388> shrt times 5, 10, 15
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> well...only way to really do this....(and it's not real smooth...maybe we can automate this more)....is to do the following
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> open your chart prefs....to the view period tab...and change view period to something like "last 5 days ending..."...with and ending date/time of something like 10/25/2005 9:35:00
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> that should start you at first 5-min bar of today
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> then you can just change to 9:40 (and hit apply) to move forward one 5-min bar, etc
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> doing it that way...your regression lines should work as you want
4:59 pm:<Rob388> OK, that sounds like it might work - thks
5 pm:<tomd> chad does the enthios thing work with mytrack data
5 pm:<LS_Chad> we might be able to come up with something that advanced the view period forward 1 bar
5 pm:<tomd> the addon template
5 pm:<Rob388> 2nd quesion, I like to scan on a shrt time pd, less than one day using yesterday's CL. Is there a DAYCL.1?
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> what is the "enthios thing" exactly?
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> have a link to it?
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> Rob, you'll need to use MPD
5:01 pm:<tomd> market profile template
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> read this: http://www.linnsoft.com/qa/a/9.htm
5:02 pm:<tomd> http://www.enthios.com/templates/Universal%20050928.txt
5:02 pm:<tuna> try it tomd
5:02 pm:<Rob388> OK, I'll check that out
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> tuna...it should work regardless of feed
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> as long as you have data on whatever symbol you're looking at
5:04 pm:<tuna> your talking about the adv/dec thing?
5:04 pm:<tomd> no the market profile thing
5:04 pm:<tuna> chad?
5:04 pm:<tomd> sorry
5:05 pm:<tuna> tom i say just try it if u want to
5:06 pm:<tuna> what could it hurt?
5:06 pm:<Rob388> another q - Chad on LR channel definition you wrote you use 0L for lower chnl and 0U for upper, is there a 0M for the median?
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> tuna...I'm not sure exactly what is in that chart....but regardless....any feed should work...
5:08 pm:<tuna> u have me mixed up with tomd
5:08 pm:<tuna> my q was about adv/dec ratio
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> oh..sorry
5:09 pm:<tuna> np
5:12 pm:<tomd> ok i download the enthios thing
5:12 pm:<tomd> but it seems to be for ib data
5:13 pm:<tomd> it comes up as esz5
5:13 pm:<tomd> http://www.enthios.com/charts/universal-rev.htm
5:13 pm:<tomd> on the bottom page it
5:14 pm:<tomd> had the r/t template
5:14 pm:<LS_Bill> right, that setup was for IB, ESZ5
5:14 pm:<LS_Bill> just type the new ticker into the chart
5:15 pm:<tomd> i cnat seem to firue out how
5:15 pm:<tomd> sorry
5:15 pm:<tomd> think i may have got
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> you can also type ticker into small box at bottom left of chart
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> but if you just start typing ticker..the "replace instrument" window shoudl come up
5:16 pm:<LS_Chad> and let you change the symbol
5:16 pm:<tomd> yes
5:16 pm:<tomd> yes i got it
5:16 pm:<tomd> thanks
5:16 pm:<tuna> does it work?
5:17 pm:<tomd> yes
5:17 pm:<tuna> cool
5:17 pm:<tomd> i wish i could show
5:17 pm:<tomd> i am used to hotcom
5:17 pm:<tomd> how long is support on to?
5:18 pm:<tuna> geocities is free
5:18 pm:<tuna> for posting
5:18 pm:<tuna> charts
5:18 pm:<tuna> fwiw
5:18 pm:<tomd> thaks
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> We're working on the ability to export and import TPO charts
5:20 pm:<MPx> !!!!!!!!!
5:20 pm:<tuna> hmmm
5:21 pm:<MPx> hello!
5:21 pm:<tuna> lol
5:21 pm:<LS_Chad> Should work just like importing/exporting traditional charts (file: export: chart def)
5:21 pm:<MPx> yes except a slight problem OS X < >XP
5:22 pm:<LS_Chad> but then I won't have to ask for a screenshot of your preference window any more :)
5:22 pm:<MPx> should be interesting
5:22 pm:<MPx> :-)
5:22 pm:<buddha> 7water02
5:22 pm:<MPx> ok Buddha
5:22 pm:<MPx> what does it mean
5:22 pm:<MPx> I think u type in a password to something i the wrong window ;-)
5:23 pm:<MPx> Chad...
5:23 pm:<MPx> scroll- ability
5:23 pm:<MPx> instead of Now/Days back
5:24 pm:<MPx> now/Profiles back
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> I'll think about that one MPx...a good bit of work
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> it actually does change to "profiles back" when you do multi-day profiles
5:25 pm:<MPx> Nice 30 min chart I'm using except we have to use the whole screen
5:25 pm:<MPx> ahh
5:25 pm:<MPx> ill check
5:25 pm:<MPx> when we do multi profile/days
5:26 pm:<MPx> it's goes a full day
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> technically...you could have several sessions to help with this
5:26 pm:<tuna> any chance individual chart windows will be able to be moved out of the main irt window in the future?
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> have a session that goes from 12 noon to close..to use late in the day
5:26 pm:<MPx> ha..XP users
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> and specify that as session override
5:26 pm:<MPx> yes
5:26 pm:<MPx> did that before u implemented this new feature
5:27 pm:<MPx> 4 sessions
5:27 pm:<MPx> good work around
5:28 pm:<tomd> ok for a stupid question
5:28 pm:<MPx> lol
5:28 pm:<tomd> i just starting tracking some internals and they
5:28 pm:<tomd> only give me four days of backfill
5:28 pm:<LS_Bill> floating chart windows that float outside the IRT task window are problematic because of the toolkit that we use for software development. I experimented with this a few years ago.
5:28 pm:<tomd> how can i be assured this is the most mytrack gives out
5:29 pm:<LS_Bill> and the results were not satisfactory
5:29 pm:<tomd> I asked them and they stated they give thirty days
5:29 pm:<LS_Chad> give me some symbol(s) tom
5:29 pm:<tuna> ok thx again bill
5:29 pm:<tomd> u.tvn d.tvn
5:29 pm:<tomd> and others
5:29 pm:<tomd> u.pn
5:29 pm:<tomd> lot of internals things
5:30 pm:<Rob388> Bill, does that mean we cannot put charts on a 2nd monitor?
5:31 pm:<tuna> no u just need to have the main window over both
5:32 pm:<Rob388> Not exactly sure what you mean by main window
5:32 pm:<LS_Bill> no, you just have to expand the IRT task window to cover both monitors
5:32 pm:<Rob388> is the task window the top header?
5:32 pm:<LS_Bill> resize the overall IRT task window so it covers two (or more) screens
5:32 pm:<LS_Bill> yes, the overall containing window having Investor/RT as the window title
5:33 pm:<Rob388> ok
5:34 pm:<Rob388> where do you resize task window?
5:35 pm:<LS_Bill> in the upper right corner of it
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> there are 3 controls
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> first click the middle one, the "restore" button
5:36 pm:<LS_Chad> tomd, what version are you running?
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> this makes the window moveable and resizable
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> tomd, do a Copy User Profile from the edit menu, then paste into the chat window
5:36 pm:<tomd> i update last Friday
5:37 pm:<LS_Bill> we had a late Friday fix to that installer tomd
5:37 pm:<LS_Chad> go to "help: about"
5:37 pm:<LS_Bill> sounds like you didn't get the fix
5:37 pm:<Rob388> not seeing the controls
5:37 pm:<LS_Chad> what does the version say at bottom right corner
5:38 pm:<Rob388> All I have is a header above, on rt I got heartbeat and time.
5:38 pm:<tomd> 8.2
5:39 pm:<LS_Chad> there is no 8.2
5:39 pm:<LS_Chad> 8.1.2?
5:39 pm:<tomd> sorry wait
5:39 pm:<tomd> i am backing up so I don't lose that enthios install
5:40 pm:<tomd> 8.1 ver 2
5:40 pm:<tomd> i downloaded it on Saturday sorry
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> ok, you should be okay then
5:41 pm:<Mike> Chad can ticks bar based charts start at 0 tick count every day someday you think? each backtest i get different results for same day!
5:41 pm:<Rob388> not letting me paste into chat
5:42 pm:<MPx> BIll can I delete the scans in the DB from 8.1.2?
5:42 pm:<MPx> will I crash
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> no, I fixed that (rare) bug MPx
5:42 pm:<MPx> k
5:42 pm:<MPx> thnk
5:42 pm:<MPx> Im doing a fresh install
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> and I wrote it up in the What's New in 8.1.2 help
5:42 pm:<MPx> no choice
5:42 pm:<Mike> Bill any plans to make 500 scan limit larger?
5:43 pm:<tomd> is there a way i can be assured i am getting the most backfill data?
5:43 pm:<MPx> I can't run the beta u sent me earlier
5:43 pm:<MPx> crash after launch even on fresh install
5:44 pm:<LS_Bill> neither of your issues are a priority right now, if they were quick enhancements, they would have been done already
5:44 pm:<LS_Bill> they may seem simple, it there is alot of work involved with the tick start thing
5:44 pm:<LS_Bill> and you are the only one on planet earth who can't seem to get by with 500 scans
5:44 pm:<MPx> LOL
5:45 pm:<MPx> tell me your secret I will run the best ones onmy comp please!
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> Mike never throws anything away I guess.
5:46 pm:<LS_Bill> Mike, now that the exporting of scans can be done so easily
5:46 pm:<Mike> no others on mail list at least 2 hit limit also
5:46 pm:<Mike> ok
5:46 pm:<LS_Bill> why don't you archive some of those that you rarely if ever use and delete them
5:46 pm:<LS_Bill> you can get them back anytime you want via an import def
5:46 pm:<Mike> ok
5:46 pm:<LS_Chad> tom..I'm testing a download of U.TVN now
5:47 pm:<Rob388> Bill can I get back to the task window, i don't see how to resize, no controls top rt.
5:47 pm:<Mike> why not raise scan limit though also?
5:47 pm:<LS_Bill> this particular limit has to do with menu's as I recall
5:47 pm:<Mike> ok well no limit to signals
5:48 pm:<tomd> thanks Chad
5:48 pm:<LS_Bill> I'm not sure that menus with more than 512 items are allowable in OS X or Windows
5:48 pm:<Mike> anyways see what you can do, i asked because a few others on mail list had problem also
5:48 pm:<LS_Bill> e.g. the Open: Scan menu
5:48 pm:<LS_Chad> it gave me 8 days of 1-minute data
5:48 pm:<LS_Chad> back to 10/14
5:48 pm:<Mike> ok is there a limit to signals then?
5:48 pm:<LS_Bill> one sec
5:49 pm:<tomd> ok so there is some type of limit no problem
5:50 pm:<tomd> just wanted to make sure i was doing it right
5:50 pm:<tomd> i get to the 10/18
5:50 pm:<tomd> so in the ball park
5:50 pm:<tomd> thanks
5:51 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...if you look in the message log after or during the download...
5:51 pm:<LS_Chad> you'll see that we're requesting the data..and myTrack is returning that there is no data
5:51 pm:<LS_Bill> looks like 500 scans, 500 signals
5:51 pm:<Mike> ok
5:51 pm:<tomd> ok
5:52 pm:<LS_Bill> how many chart names do you have mike
5:52 pm:<Mike> i scrolled signasl menu 14 clicks, and scan menu 8 clicks
5:52 pm:<tomd> now for another stupid question
5:52 pm:<tomd> for the charts i no longer use
5:52 pm:<tomd> does deleting them help with anythng ram wise or anything on computer
5:53 pm:<LS_Chad> no
5:53 pm:<tomd> ok
5:53 pm:<LS_Chad> charts that are not open, have no effect
5:53 pm:<LS_Chad> same for quotepages
5:53 pm:<Mike> 13 clicks in chart menu, not sure how many chart names, how can one count them, or where in IRT is that count seen?
5:53 pm:<tomd> last thing been using your charts for about six months finally have learned the ins and outs
5:54 pm:<LS_Chad> now...symbols marked for intraday...do have an effect..even if they aren't open in a chart or quotepage
5:54 pm:<Mike> saved stuff is harddisk saved.
5:54 pm:<tomd> bhow to do the lrchannels and synchronize and overlay the charts
5:54 pm:<tomd> love your charting
5:54 pm:<tomd> thanks alot guys
5:54 pm:<tomd> sometimes i know you don't hear that
5:54 pm:<tomd> have a good night
5:54 pm:<LS_Chad> thanks...you too
5:54 pm:<Mike> nite Tom
5:56 pm:<Mike> Chad can you share post a .def for that stuff you sent to TASC article ?
5:57 pm:<LS_Chad> what "stuff" Mike
5:57 pm:<LS_Chad> January 1998
5:57 pm:<Mike> "speed trading system"
5:57 pm:<LS_Chad> month?
5:57 pm:<Mike> I'd share every thing
5:57 pm:<Mike> nov 2005 page 79
5:58 pm:<Mike> 8 or more scans or signals I see.
5:59 pm:<LS_Chad> Mike....it's easier to just copy/paste those signals instead of importing
5:59 pm:<LS_Chad> not much too them
5:59 pm:<LS_Chad> that's RTL 101
5:59 pm:<Mike> ok where get text to copy paste then?
5:59 pm:<LS_Chad> type it in Mike...
6 pm:<LS_Chad> gotta run guys...have a good evening
6 pm:<Mike> oh please
6 pm:<LS_Chad> CL > MA AND CL.1 < MA.1 AND ABS(CL - CL.1) > ABS(CL.1 - CL.2)
6 pm:<MPx> ciao for chow
6 pm:<LS_Chad> CL < MA AND CL.1 > MA.1 AND ABS(CL - CL.1) > ABS(CL.1 - CL.2)
6 pm:<LS_Chad> CL > MA AND CL.1 < MA.1 AND ABS(CL - CL.1) < ABS(CL.1 - CL.2)
6 pm:<LS_Chad> CL < MA AND CL.1 > MA.1 AND ABS(CL - CL.1) < ABS(CL.1 - CL.2)
6 pm:<Mike> it a trading system i see
6 pm:<Mike> fine i do and post for all to share it then
6:01 pm:<Mike> ok not that bad this one i see
6:01 pm:<Mike> bye Chad
6:01 pm:<Mike> Dan soccer now I bbl though
6:01 pm:<Mike> catch me later dan
6:02 pm:<Rob388> Good session, adios.
6:02 pm:<LS_Bill> I was looking that that 500 limit mike, I can increase that without too much work
6:02 pm:<LS_Bill> I just don't know what will happen when IRT tries to add 999 scans to a menu
6:02 pm:<Mike> be great
6:02 pm:<LS_Bill> you can be the test case I guess
6:02 pm:<Mike> ok