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4:34 pm:<fcat> anyone else have probs with 8.6b3 booting ?
4:35 pm:<Daniel> no I have problems with the official release displaying "IRT Not Responding" in the task bar at the bottom...strange
4:35 pm:<fcat> 8.6 out today ?
4:36 pm:<Daniel> get some sort of 1 minute freeze but it still works all day despite that
4:36 pm:<fcat> weird Dan
4:36 pm:<Daniel> in the VB pane I get the (not Available) message yet it still works
4:37 pm:<Daniel> yeah some weirdness all over..didn't bother reporting them more than once...seems they are extra busy
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> you mean, in the VB prefs window Daniel ("not enabled")
4:37 pm:<Daniel> no in the top of the pane in the chart itself
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> fcat, what do you mean "problems booting"?
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> share the chart so I can see Daniel
4:38 pm:<fcat> won't open my layout
4:38 pm:<fcat> seems to freeze
4:38 pm:<Daniel> it works just the same despite that though....
4:38 pm:<Daniel> fcat launch with shift key held down
4:38 pm:<Daniel> open one chart at a time and find the culprit
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4:39 pm:<fcat> yiggidy
4:39 pm:<fcat> that could take some time
4:39 pm:<fcat> lots of charts ;-)
4:39 pm:<fcat> chart junkie you know
4:39 pm:<Daniel> hehe
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> fcat, beta 2 was fine...but not beta 3?
4:40 pm:<fcat> correct Chad
4:40 pm:<Daniel> oh beta 3 stable for TPOs and RTL?
4:41 pm:<Daniel> going to try it now...brb in 5 mins
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4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> fcat, in beta 2, try exporting your layout and send to me..and I'll see if I can reproduce
4:41 pm:<fcat> ok
4:41 pm:<fcat> on 8.5r5 now
4:42 pm:<fcat> will reinstall b3 again and make sure it reproduces again for me
4:42 pm:<fcat> if so I will reinsall b2 and send layout
4:43 pm:<fcat> or do you just want my current layout ?
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> layout from R5 is fine
4:45 pm:<LS_Chad> you use MP charts? VB indicator?
4:45 pm:<fcat> no MP VB
4:45 pm:<fcat> I'm old school lo tech trader
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4:46 pm:<Daniel> works fine here
4:46 pm:<Daniel> fcat you have a bad chart
4:46 pm:<fcat> and attitude
4:46 pm:<Daniel> atitude is ok as long as you make $
4:46 pm:<Daniel> lol
4:46 pm:<fcat> :0
4:47 pm:<Daniel> err how to take off the sound wit htis IRT chat!
4:47 pm:<Daniel> ?
4:47 pm:<fcat> what's your email chad "?
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4:48 pm:<Daniel> ok...
4:50 pm:<Daniel> Chad did you add TR_STOP/TR_TARGET/TR_FILL to the available V# in the TPO charts?
4:51 pm:<fcat> on the way Chad if your email is chad@linnsoft.com
4:52 pm:<fcat> gonna try b3 again
4:53 pm:<fcat> brb
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> no...nothing on that yet Daniel
4:53 pm:<Daniel> k
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> tell me what you want exactly
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4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> ability to peg a ref line to one of those levels?
4:53 pm:<Daniel> to be able to reference them in TPOcharts
4:53 pm:<Daniel> yes
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> ok...will do some thinking on that...
4:53 pm:<Daniel> thnx
4:54 pm:<Daniel> I thinkthey are just V#
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> you just want to be able to enter "Stop" or "Targ" or "Fill" as the "value"
4:54 pm:<Daniel> right
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> and have IRT grab the value
4:54 pm:<Daniel> yes
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> what feed you use fcat?
4:56 pm:<subq> hey daniel
4:56 pm:<subq> hey chad you get my email?
4:56 pm:<subq> about some predefined variables on MP charts for hi/lo of profile
4:56 pm:<Daniel> hey
4:57 pm:<subq> so maybe like a =DPH =DPL =PH and =PL
4:57 pm:<subq> added to the list on http://www.linnsoft.com/qa/a/102.htm
4:58 pm:<subq> developing price high, low and price high/low
4:58 pm:<subq> right now i have todo a custom VA set at 100%
4:59 pm:<Daniel> think u can run a scan set to V# on a candle chart
4:59 pm:<Daniel> with stat
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4:59 pm:<Daniel> minimize the candle if you don't want to see it
5 pm:<subq> thing is i want to pull all the reference lines off one MP chart :)
5 pm:<Daniel> ah
5 pm:<Daniel> the other way around
5 pm:<Daniel> sounds good
5 pm:<subq> and then on the dynamic display those reference lines
5 pm:<Daniel> right
5:01 pm:<subq> i suppose ppl could reference them on candle charts if they want but a high low of the profile as a variable name would be cool :)
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...I'll put that on list subq
5:01 pm:<subq> thx, that will help a lot
5:01 pm:<Daniel> high/low of a profile is just high /low od a session
5:01 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:02 pm:<subq> yeah session high/low
5:02 pm:<Daniel> but if it will help visually they sure add it
5:02 pm:<Daniel> *then
5:02 pm:<fcat> on 8.6b3 here now opened fine today
5:02 pm:<fcat> go figure
5:03 pm:<fcat> I blame Bill Gates
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...I always thought the high and low were pretty clear in profile
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> but you need the line extending all the way to right for some reason? (or left?)
5:03 pm:<subq> they are...but im pulling data from charts im not looking at
5:03 pm:<subq> and on the cahrt im looking at using reference lines
5:03 pm:<Daniel> some particualr chart like a 1 sec tick chart overloading you when u launch maybe and now since it'squiet it's not freezing maybe?
5:04 pm:<subq> so on one MP chart i want the POC, the high and the low
5:04 pm:<subq> then on the MP chart i watch i pull the v# variable from it
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> so you want the MP to stuff the session high into a V#?
5:05 pm:<Daniel> oh you want to pull the 1020 charts session i/lo onto the dynamic chart
5:05 pm:<subq> yep
5:05 pm:<Daniel> hi/lo*
5:05 pm:<subq> right 1020 and i also look at session 2 only
5:05 pm:<subq> so the hi/lo is diff on them
5:05 pm:<Daniel> k
5:05 pm:<LS_Chad> ok, so you want an "=DHI", V#1 type capability
5:05 pm:<LS_Chad> need current high and prev high? or just current
5:06 pm:<Daniel> and PDHI
5:06 pm:<Daniel> y
5:06 pm:<Daniel> so to ref the o/n hi/lo
5:06 pm:<Daniel> that would be xclnt
5:06 pm:<subq> right, to ref the o/n hi an low i just call that v#
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> =HI for prev high..and =DHI for current high (to stay in synch with what I've used for VA)
5:06 pm:<Daniel> can close 1 chart on each of the 8 contracts I trade
5:06 pm:<Daniel> sheesh
5:07 pm:<Daniel> more space1
5:07 pm:<subq> yep
5:07 pm:<subq> chad that would be perfect
5:08 pm:<subq> so basically we have named variables for MP charts just like we do for VAH VAL POC POCv, etc etc
5:08 pm:<subq> i suppose even a v#10 to pull them all in order
5:08 pm:<subq> would be cool
5:08 pm:<subq> but dont need that :)
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5:08 pm:<subq> main thing is just being able to reference it
5:09 pm:<subq> i hack around it now by setting the value area to 100% and then reference line the VAH and VAL ;)
5:10 pm:<Daniel> hmmm Chad you think you can add %TR_STAT to be displayed somewhere clean out of the way in a TPO chart?
5:11 pm:<Daniel> maybe peg it to TR_FILL if added
5:11 pm:<Daniel> thinking.....
5:11 pm:<LS_Chad> daniel...right now, you could have a custom column that did... SET(V#1, TR_FILL) AND SET(V#2, TR_TARGET) ....etc
5:12 pm:<LS_Chad> and just peg your ref lines to V#1, V#2 (and label with "fill" "target")
5:12 pm:<Daniel> ok will do that
5:12 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, just base a CC on a signal with that syntax
5:12 pm:<Daniel> thnx
5:12 pm:<LS_Chad> have it recalc every 5 seconds or whatever
5:13 pm:<LS_Chad> just did the =DHI stuff..testing
5:14 pm:<LS_Chad> works great
5:15 pm:<Daniel> nice
5:16 pm:<LS_Chad> just updated Q&A with athat
5:17 pm:<subq> so =hi is previus session and =dhi is current session right?
5:17 pm:<subq> oh you updated q&q will just look there
5:17 pm:<LS_Chad> yes
5:18 pm:<arno> Chad - how did Tuna get the prices colored on this chart? http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/11/01/Tuna_vwap.JPG
5:18 pm:<arno> the prices in the vertical bar?
5:19 pm:<subq> arno any .jpg
5:19 pm:<subq> are not IRT
5:19 pm:<arno> oh -ok - thought they were... no problem then
5:19 pm:<MPTRADING2> THAT IS A tRADESTATION CHART
5:20 pm:<MPTRADING2> @ER2 IS A continous symbol on TS
5:20 pm:<subq> yep
5:20 pm:<MPTRADING2> for russel 2000
5:22 pm:<LS_Chad> what I'm wondering is how he posted a tradestation chart
5:22 pm:<MPTRADING2> subq has a direct link
5:22 pm:<LS_Chad> ok
5:22 pm:<subq> yeah dog posted that
5:23 pm:<MPTRADING2> anyone that knows the link can do that
5:23 pm:<subq> it isnt publicly available
5:23 pm:<Daniel> man! Cahd IRT has a max of 30 columsn in a QP
5:23 pm:<Daniel> I cant add anymore V# columns!
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> looks like he's got a line at every available price ;)
5:24 pm:<Daniel> no no
5:24 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> not sure how you make heads or tails of that
5:24 pm:<Daniel> I have 4 accounts and 8 contracts
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...I think it's 30 or 32
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> just create a duplicate of the qp....and start again
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> file: save: save as
5:25 pm:<Daniel> each need a differnt strategy name per contract because of the NT5 interface
5:25 pm:<Daniel> im lost
5:26 pm:<Daniel> if I have 3 or 4 positions on different contracts the QP needs to be open in order for NT5 for do all the stuff it does
5:27 pm:<Daniel> have to add the tr_stop/targ/fill to the same qp
5:29 pm:<LS_Chad> aren't there tokens for TR_STOP, TR_TARGET, etc
5:29 pm:<Daniel> yes
5:29 pm:<LS_Chad> just have a signal: SET(V#1, TR_STOP) AND SET(V#2, TR_TARGET) AND SET(V#3, TR_FILL);
5:29 pm:<LS_Chad> so then you can rely on V#1, V#2, V#3 to be set to those values at any time
5:30 pm:<LS_Chad> can base ref lines in MP charts on them (or in bar charts)
5:30 pm:<Daniel> have that set up in a scan and I alraedt have those tr line V# in the chart
5:31 pm:<Daniel> cinfusing
5:31 pm:<Daniel> confusing*
5:32 pm:<Daniel> those 3 ref lines are already in my candle charts which I use to place trades form IRT to NT5..when I am filled the lines appear on my chart I can adjuat the stop and target from those lines
5:32 pm:<Daniel> now all I need is just to see these lines on a TPO chart
5:33 pm:<subq> wouldnt that be nice :)
5:33 pm:<subq> full integrated trading from a tpo chart
5:34 pm:<Daniel> the more signals and what not that gets added to a candle chart that is used for trading to NT5 hiccups more and more every time a scan/ssignal or indicator is added to it
5:34 pm:<Daniel> have to keep the candle trading chart as clean as possible
5:34 pm:<subq> no trading off tpo charts?
5:34 pm:<subq> at all?
5:34 pm:<Daniel> cant how?
5:35 pm:<Daniel> I have buttons on a candle chart that execute to NT5 for me
5:35 pm:<Daniel> along the bottom of my TPO charts
5:35 pm:<subq> i personally dont have any integration, but what do you use the candle chart for?
5:35 pm:<subq> seems if you could get all functionality on the tpo, you wouldnt need the candle
5:35 pm:<Daniel> and because I have 4 accounts and 8 contratc s I have to use a S**T load of T# and V# to get it done
5:36 pm:<subq> yeah
5:36 pm:<subq> luckily i only trade one account
5:36 pm:<Daniel> so the trading list QP is full...maxed ut
5:36 pm:<subq> i just manually enter my stuff on ninja
5:36 pm:<subq> daniel what feed you use on ninja?
5:36 pm:<subq> tt?
5:36 pm:<Daniel> sure one account one or 2 contracts
5:36 pm:<Daniel> IB
5:36 pm:<subq> ah ok
5:37 pm:<Daniel> and pats with Infinity
5:37 pm:<Daniel> 2 different brokers 2 accts each
5:37 pm:<subq> ive been having a few hiccups on ninja/zen
5:38 pm:<Daniel> the thing is there is no way we would be able to trade off a TPO chart
5:38 pm:<Daniel> we would need the ability to manually drag or move to a price level the reflines used for trading
5:38 pm:<Daniel> in the chart itself
5:38 pm:<Daniel> we dont have that
5:39 pm:<subq> right
5:39 pm:<subq> since it's an overlay
5:39 pm:<Daniel> y
5:39 pm:<subq> when i think chart trading i envision how ninja charts has it
5:39 pm:<subq> but they only do candle too
5:39 pm:<Daniel> yeah I have it pretty much the same
5:39 pm:<Daniel> as NT5 charts
5:40 pm:<subq> since im just a small trader i can hang with manual entry/exit
5:40 pm:<Daniel> NT5 dome sucks
5:40 pm:<Daniel> since the TT patent
5:40 pm:<subq> oh you dont use the dome?
5:40 pm:<Daniel> nope
5:40 pm:<subq> wow
5:40 pm:<Daniel> chart only
5:40 pm:<subq> nice
5:41 pm:<Daniel> move stop target scale in/out all offf the chart
5:41 pm:<Daniel> rev
5:41 pm:<Daniel> everyting
5:41 pm:<subq> you dont get any lag because of the connection between i/rt and ninja?
5:41 pm:<Daniel> only when the chart has more than a few simple thing s in it
5:42 pm:<Daniel> lag is not between IRT < > NT5 but its between IRT click and IRT send
5:42 pm:<Daniel> for that reason a practically naked candle chart is used to trade off of
5:43 pm:<Daniel> chart buttons are calculated as indicators
5:43 pm:<LS_Chad> I gotta run guys...Daniel, send me an email with details on what you'd like to see as far as placing orders from MP charts...
5:43 pm:<LS_Chad> also, you guys might want to take a look at http://www.linnsoft.com/videos/
5:43 pm:<LS_Chad> the vided on Market Profile MORE Reference Lines
5:43 pm:<Daniel> if too many in the chart it will take you 5 to 10 seconds to move you stop/target or send a buy/sell limit
5:43 pm:<Daniel> ok!!!
5:43 pm:<Daniel> u serious?!!
5:44 pm:<subq> daniel you get your volume chart how you wanted it?
5:44 pm:<subq> back to look like old style?
5:44 pm:<subq> seems a lot more config options now
5:44 pm:<Daniel> nope
5:44 pm:<Daniel> I didnt opt for the MD option
5:44 pm:<LS_Chad> no guarantees...but let me know...I'll consider anything...
5:44 pm:<Daniel> I out of the loop
5:44 pm:<Daniel> ok Chad
5:44 pm:<Daniel> thanks
5:44 pm:<subq> oh, you were grandfathered i thought
5:45 pm:<Daniel> yes with the MP only
5:45 pm:<subq> ah ok
5:45 pm:<Daniel> since I bought IRT I had a choice
5:45 pm:<subq> grandfathreed people had to buy it by a certain date
5:45 pm:<Daniel> and the VB is the part I use
5:45 pm:<Daniel> right
5:45 pm:<LS_Chad> some new stuff in VB for Beta 3 also
5:45 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tour/techind/vb.htm
5:46 pm:<Daniel> oh good
5:46 pm:<Daniel> I'll read
5:46 pm:<LS_Chad> see ya guys
5:46 pm:<Daniel> one question before you go chad
5:46 pm:<subq> i have to knock out a few things, catch you guys later
5:47 pm:<subq> nice seeing you in here daniel :)
5:47 pm:<Daniel> are u familiar with chart trading from a candle chart and what happens with a little price ladder that pops up when prompted for a proce level for a trade?
5:47 pm:<Daniel> Chad!
5:47 pm:<LS_Chad> no
5:47 pm:<Daniel> I need to know so I won't lose u
5:47 pm:<Daniel> ok
5:48 pm:<Daniel> ok then I will have to get you up to date on how it;s done ...
5:48 pm:<Daniel> will send u email
5:48 pm:<Daniel> thanx