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2:56 pm:<X> Hello MPTRADING2, Welcome to Linn Software's chat room.
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4:08 pm:<bee> hi All
4:14 pm:<bee> any expert in charting: how could I "UNZOOM' using InvestorRT? for example, the whole 1-min chart from eminis in one view
4:16 pm:<MPTRADING2> ask the question again after 430 when Chad back here
4:17 pm:<bee> you mean 4:30 EST
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4:21 pm:<bee> Hi Chad, how could I activate the "UNZOOM" function in charting InvestorRT? I know the "UNDO' after zooming.
4:24 pm:<LS_Chad> best way to "zoom" is to just use the up/down arrow keys on your keyboard (or mouse scroll wheel)
4:24 pm:<LS_Chad> have you tried that method?
4:25 pm:<LS_Chad> but I believe, after zooming, you can do a "ctrl-z" to undo the zoom
4:25 pm:<bee> No, I'm Mac-user
4:25 pm:<LS_Chad> up/down arrow keys should also work on mac
4:25 pm:<LS_Chad> click on chart..then click or hold down up/down arrow keys on keyboard
4:25 pm:<bee> yes
4:26 pm:<bee> thanks
4:27 pm:<bee> see you
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4:27 pm:<fcat> hi chad, all irters
4:28 pm:<LS_Chad> hey fcact
4:28 pm:<fcat> :)
4:28 pm:<LS_Chad> we're gonna try to get a beta 4 out tomorrow possibly
4:28 pm:<fcat> Bill not here ?
4:28 pm:<fcat> ok good
4:28 pm:<LS_Chad> no..he's taking care of his father...not doing real well
4:28 pm:<fcat> sorry to hear that
4:29 pm:<fcat> had been wondering where he was
4:29 pm:<fcat> best wishes to him and his father
4:29 pm:<LS_Chad> thanks...will pass that along
4:31 pm:<fcat> tks
4:31 pm:<fcat> had a bit of a lag on quotes today here chad
4:31 pm:<fcat> dtn couldn't find anything on their end
4:32 pm:<fcat> spent an hour with them trying various things
4:32 pm:<fcat> dsl connection here checked fine
4:32 pm:<fcat> cpu usage was only 20 % or so
4:33 pm:<LS_Chad> and you tried shutting all charts down.....just to make sure it wasn't a chart slowing things down?
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4:33 pm:<fcat> buffer count here was very low
4:33 pm:<LS_Chad> what is a bit of a lag? 5 seconds, 1 minute?
4:33 pm:<fcat> on avg would say 10-15 secs
4:33 pm:<LS_Chad> compare do what?
4:34 pm:<LS_Chad> compared to what?
4:34 pm:<LS_Chad> DTN software?
4:34 pm:<fcat> TWS quotes
4:34 pm:<fcat> from IB
4:34 pm:<LS_Chad> might try opening the DTNiQ software...have you tried that
4:34 pm:<fcat> no
4:34 pm:<LS_Chad> if that software also is lagging, then it's DTN....if not, then it's IRT
4:35 pm:<fcat> don't think I have ever opened it
4:35 pm:<fcat> lol
4:35 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...know what you mean
4:35 pm:<LS_Chad> probably have it installed though
4:35 pm:<fcat> think so
4:35 pm:<fcat> not sure what version
4:36 pm:<fcat> hmmm have two folders in program folder
4:37 pm:<fcat> one is DTN
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> just go to dtniq.com and download/install their latest software
4:38 pm:<fcat> other is IQ feed
4:38 pm:<fcat> ok
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4:40 pm:<Daniel> afternoon folks....
4:40 pm:<Daniel> what did I miss?
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> nothing really
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> going to try to get out a bet 4 tomorrow
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> some highlights.....
4:41 pm:<Daniel> ok....we have...opps u beat it to it!
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> New "session override" added to Custom Columns
4:41 pm:<Daniel> lol
4:41 pm:<Daniel> oh
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> Targ, Stop, Fill options are now there for MP chart ref line values :)
4:41 pm:<Daniel> xclnt
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> Yahoo! Screener...add all kinds of new criteria there...pretty powerful feature now for those that trade stocks
4:41 pm:<Daniel> just type in like the TPO ref lines?
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, just type in a value of TARG for you ref line
4:42 pm:<Daniel> =STOP =TARG etc
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> and it will pin to the TR_Target
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> = not required
4:42 pm:<Daniel> ah ok
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> can still put any label..but the "value" is what will dictate..make the value: TARG, STOP, or FILLL
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> FILL
4:43 pm:<Daniel> perfect...thnx!
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> new display formats: Fives and Tens (this is for international instruments I believe)
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> new trendline label option of "Prices" (tells how many ticks/prices covered by the line)
4:44 pm:<Daniel> saw the TPO ref lines pageupdated with high/low of current and previous
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, added those too... =HI, =DHI
4:44 pm:<Daniel> get my email about adding naked poc token?
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...vaguely recall that...I've been buried..I'll try to dig it up
4:44 pm:<Mike> hi all
4:44 pm:<X> Hello Daniel, Welcome to Linn Software's chat room.
4:45 pm:<Daniel> ok thnx...just next above below is fine
4:46 pm:<Daniel> next above/below current Profile and if it's hit jump one up /dowm accordingly...if that's possible
4:46 pm:<Daniel> understand the buried issue...figured it's been like this since the whole MP thing went Cbot legit
4:47 pm:<LS_Chad> well..that and MarketDelta
4:47 pm:<Daniel> and now Bill's dad...any news?
4:47 pm:<Mike> Chad playback for regular charts is in your plate or Bills?
4:47 pm:<LS_Chad> neither right now
4:48 pm:<Mike> ok
4:48 pm:<Daniel> k
4:48 pm:<fcat> Chad...hear/know anything regarding my goofy 1m chart issue ?
4:48 pm:<Mike> many like to see that as you know
4:48 pm:<LS_Chad> not familiar with that fcat
4:48 pm:<fcat> ok...didn't know if Bill had you on that at all or not
4:48 pm:<Mike> fcat remind Bill maybe
4:49 pm:<Mike> sub here?
4:49 pm:<Mike> what else planned for next release Chad besides what you mentioned already thx
4:50 pm:<Daniel> Chad which data feed do you use to run IRT and do you run others side by side to compare signals and CIs you develop?
4:50 pm:<fcat> Chad anyone complain of IRT "stealing the cursor" from other apps in *.6b3 ?
4:50 pm:<fcat> 8.6b3
4:52 pm:<Mike> Chad I see no more chat email announcements? were they done automatically from yahoo before?
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> generally run eSignal...sometimes DTNiQ
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> have run side by side at times doing some testing
4:52 pm:<Daniel> notice different signal markers>
4:52 pm:<Daniel> ?
4:53 pm:<Mike> Dan I run mytrack and IB same time live
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> I haven't specifically Daniel...would really depend on the periodicity of the chart, nature of the signal, etc
4:53 pm:<Mike> mac and pc
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> if you're looking at tickbar charts....I could certainly see the possibility for different signals for a variety of reasons
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> time-based charts..not so much
4:54 pm:<Daniel> ok...I have run Mytrack and now on IB/DTNIQ and no matter what the signals are slightly different when closing/reopening a chart AND ofcourse when downloading over the data that was previously there intra-day
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> tickbar charts?
4:55 pm:<Daniel> huge difference between vendors
4:55 pm:<Daniel> yeah
4:55 pm:<Daniel> range bars
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4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> what view period do you use?
4:55 pm:<Daniel> 1 point range bar
4:55 pm:<Daniel> 3 days
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> are you downloading 1-min bars? or ticks?
4:55 pm:<Mike> they all start new at session now right Chad?
4:55 pm:<Daniel> ticks always
4:55 pm:<Daniel> IB feeding the charts live
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> does myTrack even have tick downloading?
4:56 pm:<Daniel> but DTNIQ download after the close for ticks
4:56 pm:<Daniel> yes
4:56 pm:<Daniel> but dumped then to move to IB/DTNIQ because of the better tick downloads
4:56 pm:<Daniel> but the issue is the live signals vs the close and reopen chart signals
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> could have to do with a "cumulative indicator" being used in a signal
4:57 pm:<Daniel> hmm
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> might need to increase the "bars" setting in your signal
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> what is the signal based on ...what indicator(s)
4:57 pm:<Daniel> based on your VB Delta Extreme chart but with a filter
4:58 pm:<Daniel> of >50 lots on ER
4:58 pm:<Mike> Chad range barrs nwo 0 each asession?
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> send me the chart def and I'll do some testing
4:58 pm:<Daniel> ok
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> there is an option for that..yes
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> setup: prefs: charts: general
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> "continous tick charts"
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> if it's unchecked, will reset each day
4:59 pm:<Mike> ok great l iet me look
4:59 pm:<Mike> he he that a FULL dialog! of settings
5 pm:<Mike> unchecked here
5 pm:<LS_Chad> we've got many of those
5 pm:<LS_Chad> we've got more settings than the space shuttle
5 pm:<Mike> in new beta you have 2 colored line setting changes to 1 color could you make that change to the proper setting when users do upgrade or hard to do?
5:01 pm:<Mike> shh that is great part of program :)
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> (and some have told me it's equally hard to naviggate) ;)
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> yes...extremely hard to do
5:01 pm:<Mike> RRick questions?
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> not gonna happen
5:01 pm:<Mike> no prob fo rme but others
5:02 pm:<Mike> arno all good?
5:02 pm:<Mike> Prayers to Bill and his family also please
5:02 pm:<Rrick> Hi ;-)
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> Hey Rick....
5:03 pm:<Mike> questions? issues? comments? your name a bit new here , welcome
5:03 pm:<Rrick> Any prefs to turn off the copyright info on printouts?
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> MP charts?
5:03 pm:<LS_Chad> the CBOT copyright? or IRT?
5:04 pm:<Mike> printing, or posting to web? gifs?
5:04 pm:<Rrick> Both quotepages and on the bottom of charts... Yea...
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> no...that's why they're there....but you could take your own screen capture of the window...and print from there
5:04 pm:<Rrick> Printing to paper...
5:05 pm:<LS_Chad> how long you been using IRT Rick?
5:05 pm:<Rrick> A can't remember any other software that sticks such a big copyright on paper like that 8-0
5:06 pm:<Mike> you on pc or mac?
5:06 pm:<Rrick> Been using IRT for about 2 months now...
5:06 pm:<Mike> on mac I print at 50% page reduction that trick reduces fonts only!!!!
5:06 pm:<Mike> not sure on PC
5:06 pm:<Rrick> On a mac
5:06 pm:<Daniel> Chad I sent the email with explanation
5:06 pm:<Mike> printing copyright should be there but minor in appearence
5:07 pm:<Mike> Rick try page setup 50% will solve it and make all fonts look great
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> Our printing capability is not our best quality....
5:07 pm:<Mike> I've done that for 12 years now on mac prints
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> Rick...try this...see if it improves
5:07 pm:<Mike> I gave him fix
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> click on the chart or quotepage...and do a "file: share picture"
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> that should upload the image to a web site
5:08 pm:<Mike> it printing issue chad
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> (if you have 8.5 or later)
5:08 pm:<Mike> not on macs no share yet Chad
5:08 pm:<Rrick> I don't mind a copyright or a logo... But my god, does it have to be across the bottom of the entire page???
5:08 pm:<Mike> woops i see share
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> from there, right-click on the image and choose "view image" to open the image in it's own browser window
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> then print from there
5:08 pm:<Mike> Rick page setup to 50% then try a print now
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> do that Rick...so I can also see what you're talking about
5:09 pm:<Mike> no share on mac IRT chad fyi
5:10 pm:<Mike> Rick need to reset pagesetup e very time you restart IRT also
5:11 pm:<Mike> Chad mayeb can get share pict in mac for 8.6 :)
5:11 pm:<Rrick> Mmmm... I guess that is a bit better for the quote page but now I have to squint to read the cells ;-)
5:11 pm:<Mike> oh i never printed qp
5:11 pm:<Mike> charts works great
5:12 pm:<Rrick> I'll try charts next... Hold on a sec please...
5:12 pm:<Mike> let me try a QP
5:12 pm:<Mike> yeah I change charts to print sideways also
5:14 pm:<Rrick> Much better at 50% for a chart Mike... Thanks... Now the copyright is only 1/2 the way across the page;-)
5:14 pm:<Mike> yep
5:15 pm:<Mike> QP he has a header box i see at top
5:16 pm:<Rrick> Still the quote page is one and a half lines for title and date and the other one and a half for copyright...
5:16 pm:<Daniel> man I wish there was a secret way to diable the CbotCopyright from the chart...it's enough we're paying them but do we have to advertise they're damn copyright!?
5:16 pm:<Mike> maybe for QP try 75% or something bareable
5:16 pm:<Daniel> disable*
5:16 pm:<Daniel> their*
5:16 pm:<Daniel> man typos
5:16 pm:<Rrick> I'm just asking to tone it down a bit on the copyright...
5:17 pm:<Mike> Rick mayeb Bill can tweek ie tune down that QP header block somewhat
5:17 pm:<Mike> Chad can pass on to Bill that request?
5:17 pm:<Rrick> Please... I just print these things out for my own use and like to mark them up and highlight things...
5:18 pm:<Rrick> And the extra copyright stuff is just a bit too BIG and BOLD for me;-)
5:19 pm:<Daniel> wouldreduce it to 50%
5:19 pm:<Rrick> Enough on that for me ;-)
5:19 pm:<Daniel> enough to see it for people with good eyes...make it fine print!
5:19 pm:<Mike> great good suggestion Rick
5:19 pm:<Mike> Other things Rick?
5:20 pm:<Mike> fkeys are great, short cuts, chart buttons etc...
5:21 pm:<Rrick> I'm still having some issues with the volume with a on ballance volume overlay... Volume bars still look too big when they first arrive...
5:21 pm:<Daniel> fkeys=more $ and better trades?
5:21 pm:<Daniel> hehe
5:21 pm:<Daniel> oh Chad yes that reminds me!
5:22 pm:<Daniel> can we PLEASE have the old volume histogram/Overlay we had before the MD work was done?
5:23 pm:<Daniel> it will not violate any copyright issues and it's a simple volume histogram wth bid/ask/same colors...just the way it was before
5:23 pm:<Daniel> would really really like to have that back
5:23 pm:<Daniel> used it for 10 and 20 day volume profiles and have no need for MD excpet for the VB in a regular chart
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> I'll discuss that with Bill
5:24 pm:<Daniel> ok thnx
5:25 pm:<Daniel> he said he would ask you but that you did not have time 2 months ago...I'm assuming it's a simple step
5:25 pm:<Daniel> like import ? ;-)
5:25 pm:<Mike> Rick see what Chad says on OBV indicator maybe
5:26 pm:<Rrick> By the way Chad, I'm looking forward to your work on the scanning... Thank you!!!
5:27 pm:<Rrick> Mike, what/where?
5:28 pm:<Mike> let's see I meant to say sorry
5:28 pm:<Mike> see his Question
5:28 pm:<Mike> Chad?
5:29 pm:<Mike> besides that open question? any more been about an hour here?
5:29 pm:<Mike> need to keep Chad busy or family :)
5:29 pm:<Mike> he he
5:31 pm:<Rrick> I would just like to say that I am using IRT every day now to support my trading and I'm liking IRT more and more;-) Thank Bill and Chad!!!
5:31 pm:<Mike> yes
5:31 pm:<Mike> learn it tips and tricks it can really hummmm
5:31 pm:<Rrick> Oh, and thank you too Mike ;-)
5:32 pm:<Mike> it is great program and great company behind it
5:32 pm:<Mike> no problem :)
5:32 pm:<Mike> just a trader
5:32 pm:<Mike> Chad got a clal maybe
5:32 pm:<Mike> Call
5:33 pm:<Rrick> Well, thanks again all!!! I've got to go feed the dogs and take a walk;-) Bye...
5:33 pm:<Mike> ok
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5:33 pm:<Mike> liek to get you OBV question tackeled though
5:37 pm:<fcat> gonna run
5:37 pm:<Mike> bbye fcat
5:37 pm:<fcat> cya mike
5:37 pm:<fcat> nit all
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5:44 pm:<Daniel> Mike your signals IB/Mytrack the same?
5:45 pm:<Mike> let me lookie
5:45 pm:<Daniel> k
5:46 pm:<Daniel> I am about to get E-Signal to compare
5:46 pm:<Mike> within .1
5:47 pm:<Daniel> have pretty good ER $ maker to go with MP but the signals are not consistent because downloaded data vs live data effects the results...
5:47 pm:<Daniel> oh realy?
5:47 pm:<Daniel> close and reopen chart and see they chnage
5:48 pm:<Mike> .4 off on one i see
5:48 pm:<Daniel> range/tick based?
5:49 pm:<Mike> yes
5:49 pm:<LS_Chad> if bars are changing upon closing / reopening chart (getting data from database instead of coming in live)...send me details and chart def...and I'll do some testing
5:49 pm:<Daniel> sent
5:50 pm:<LS_Chad> could be a difference in logic somewhere between the realtime code & historical code
5:50 pm:<Mike> i doubt it
5:50 pm:<LS_Chad> haven't received any email from you Dan
5:50 pm:<Daniel> yehuh!?
5:50 pm:<Daniel> sent exactly 5:11 pm est
6 pm:<arno> later guys
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