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4:29 pm:<Christine> hi all
4:31 pm:<Hayden1> Hello all
4:32 pm:<LS_Bill> hi Hayden, what do you do for Thanksgiving in Copenhagen?
4:32 pm:<Hayden1> Eat
4:32 pm:<LS_Bill> ;-)
4:33 pm:<Christine> lol
4:33 pm:<Hayden1> Of course it's not a Danish tradition, but Sinead, my wife loves the States and usually makes a special dinner
4:33 pm:<LS_Bill> nice
4:33 pm:<MPx> good afternoon ladies and gentlemen
4:34 pm:<Hayden1> But it's Christmas that I really appreciate. Dane's aren't big on Turkey, nor are most Europeans. We have duck which is so juicy and full of taste
4:36 pm:<Christine> love duck...yum
4:36 pm:<Hayden1> Can I jump in with an early question. Been doing a lot of work with Optimization and am amazed at the difference the time frame can make for profit and loss, using the same Entry and Exit rules.....
4:36 pm:<LS_Bill> pate de foi gras is not so bad either ;-)
4:36 pm:<LS_Bill> Chad is our optimization wizard
4:36 pm:<Hayden1> so wondering if there is a way to turn time frame into a variable V#?
4:36 pm:<tuna> i ate a Danish this am fwiw
4:37 pm:<LS_Bill> Danish tuna sandwich?
4:37 pm:<tuna> raspberry
4:37 pm:<tuna> from the Swedish bakery
4:37 pm:<Christine> bill....let me try and download...I'm still on that issue....lol
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> periodicity variability is built into the optimizer
4:38 pm:<Christine> i should be able to get daily data now, right...for stocks?
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> sure Christine
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> using DTN MA
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> or Yahoo
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> Yes Hayden, you can optimize on intraday periodicities...one of the opt choices at bottom of window
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> Any number of minutes, seconds, or ticks
4:40 pm:<MPx> does IRT Optimization work on the fly with that?
4:41 pm:<Hayden1> Yes, sure, but I mean turn the periodicities into a V#
4:41 pm:<Christine> well...hitting the download button on charts gives me 2 days only...will try DTN download
4:41 pm:<MPx> can opti run in the back ground while collecting data in a live market is what I meant.
4:41 pm:<LS_Bill> how do you mean Hayden?
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> that's basically what that does Hayden
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> you could run the optimization periodically (say every 5 minutes)...and it will optimize the variables...and leave them set to their optimal states
4:42 pm:<LS_Bill> no MPx, long running opti's not a good idea during trading hours
4:42 pm:<Hayden1> Since the time frame is such an important factor for trading (never realized until started with Optim), I'd like to get more control of time use in trading
4:43 pm:<MPx> 5 dan opti on hourly bars
4:43 pm:<MPx> is that ok?
4:43 pm:<MPx> *5 bar*
4:43 pm:<MPx> sorry
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> sure...especially if only on 1 symbol
4:43 pm:<MPx> 5 day
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> kinda depends on complexity of system...but in general, yes
4:43 pm:<Christine> Bill....I cannot get daily bars for OEX, SPX...etc....tried chart button and Download data....nothing
4:43 pm:<MPx> ohhh
4:43 pm:<MPx> nice
4:43 pm:<LS_Bill> the key word is "long". If the opti runs in just a few seconds, it's fine
4:44 pm:<MPx> well 5 day's of hourly data on 4 indicators
4:44 pm:<MPx> *hourly
4:44 pm:<LS_Bill> what source did you use DTN MA? What is the alias ticker for OEX?
4:44 pm:<Christine> OEX.XO
4:45 pm:<Christine> and SPX.XO
4:45 pm:<Christine> not just those....no stocks either
4:46 pm:<Hayden1> Chad, I'm a little confused with multiple comments and responses here. Can I assume that for present there is no way to turn the Optim Periodicities into a V#?
4:46 pm:<LS_Bill> 'm running DTN.IQ right now, and the historical server for DTN.IQ is the same as the one DTN MA uses
4:47 pm:<LS_Chad> Hayden...there is no need...is what I'm saying....
4:47 pm:<LS_Chad> it's built in
4:47 pm:<LS_Chad> you don't need a "variable" for it
4:47 pm:<LS_Bill> I get nice intraday data for OEX.XO, but only two days of daily
4:47 pm:<Christine> what is dtn ma?
4:47 pm:<MPx> DTN market access
4:47 pm:<MPx> lol
4:48 pm:<Christine> i just tried to download daily data for APPL....says downloading and complete....but no data displays in chart
4:48 pm:<Hayden1> Chad, OK, I'm trying to follow you
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> however, once I changed my daily chart view period to last 2 years I get two years of daily
4:48 pm:<LS_Chad> Hayden...look at bottom of optimization window
4:49 pm:<Hayden1> Yes, understood that the periodicities are built in, but suppose I had a trade open and wanted to know what the best periodicity to follow would be
4:49 pm:<LS_Chad> where it says "Periodicity"....
4:49 pm:<LS_Bill> Christine, I had a one minute chart up of OEX.XO with a view period of last 250 bars
4:49 pm:<LS_Chad> you can't change a periodicity "mid - backtest"
4:49 pm:<LS_Bill> I clicked download button and plenty of intra-day data
4:49 pm:<LS_Chad> if that's what you're asking
4:49 pm:<LS_Bill> when I changed to Daily chart, the chart setup still had last 250 bars as the view period
4:50 pm:<LS_Bill> but it only grabbed 2 days!
4:50 pm:<LS_Bill> when I changed to last 2 years, it got the data
4:50 pm:<LS_Bill> so it does look like maybe there is a flaw in the ointment when you have a view period express in bars
4:50 pm:<LS_Bill> trying adjusting your view period and it should get you a full daily chart
4:50 pm:<Christine> ok bill....i downloaded intraday data for appl...
4:51 pm:<Hayden1> Say I get 43min max result for C in Optim, and 13min for BA, also in Optim testing, is there some way I could use a scan/signal to help me select the best time frame for trading?
4:51 pm:<Hayden1> for different stocks
4:52 pm:<Christine> changed to daily....it went to view 2 years auto...but still only a few days visible
4:52 pm:<Christine> not working for me
4:52 pm:<Christine> let me try yahoo
4:55 pm:<Hayden1> Chad, agreed that we can't change periodicity midstream; my wish is to be able to incorporate the power of periodicity into the trading rules, somehow, someway
4:55 pm:<Christine> i got yahoo to work with daily data up to yesterday...but need to have today's candle...even with intraday download still can't get today's daily data to show
4:55 pm:<Christine> daily candle that is
4:56 pm:<Christine> dtn is not working for daily downloads.....not for me
4:56 pm:<Christine> so if it's not working...do i still need to pay for it?
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> I don't think it's a dtn problem, IRT seems to be at fault, it's related to the view period
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> you can always just 1-min data...and use rules like: BARSOPEN >= V#1
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> so there are ways to be clever in your rules and optimize "time"
4:57 pm:<Christine> my view period is set to 2 years for daily chart
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> you can "post history" Christine to get today's bar posted to the daily chart
4:58 pm:<LS_Bill> after the close
4:58 pm:<LS_Bill> I suspect this is a bug Christine, I know your auto setting is last 2 years
4:58 pm:<LS_Bill> try changing the chart to say last 3 years then hit download button
4:59 pm:<Hayden1> I follow you more or less Chad; I was wondering if there was a way to follow up this Optim result with Realization
4:59 pm:<LS_Bill> DTN does not supply a closing daily bar to much later tonight
4:59 pm:<LS_Bill> so to see the daily bar for today after the close of session, you must post history
4:59 pm:<Christine> just tried last 3 years with INDU...nothing
5 pm:<LS_Bill> what is the DTN alias for INDU?
5 pm:<Christine> i got one bar
5 pm:<Christine> INDU.X
5 pm:<Christine> and COMPX.X
5:01 pm:<Christine> where is post history?
5:01 pm:<LS_Bill> I just got several years of INDU.X
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> I'm sure realization can be of use to you Hayden...you can read about it here:
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tour/realization/index.htm
5:01 pm:<LS_Bill> to post history for say session 0
5:01 pm:<LS_Bill> click Pref button, pick Session
5:02 pm:<LS_Bill> highlight session 0 and click Post Now
5:03 pm:<Hayden1> I read what's available, in another week I'll have it memorized. It got me up and running with tests very quickly, but it's the devil in the details that I'm searching for:-)
5:03 pm:<Christine> ok....still doesn't work
5:05 pm:<MPx> absolutely no one else is reporting Christine's issue?
5:05 pm:<Christine> tried again on INDU....can't get today's bar to display on a daily chart...have downloaded intraday data.....lol
5:05 pm:<MPx> why don't you let someone else beta test a version she is using for a few days to see if it's a setup problem?
5:05 pm:<Christine> i think one other person had the same problem, but he's not here today
5:06 pm:<Christine> better still...someone take over my puter remotely and look...
5:06 pm:<LS_Bill> Christine, TODAYS bar will NOT show on a daily chart AFTER the session is closed UNTIL you post history (or download)
5:06 pm:<Hayden1> No, but 8.1 Rev 3 for IB is crashing regularly for me early in the session when I always have a problem with the feed and try to turn IB feed back on
5:06 pm:<Christine> i posted history
5:06 pm:<Christine> ok...let me try
5:06 pm:<LS_Bill> in this case downloading does not give you today's bar, therefore you MUST post history for INDU's session in order for the current day's values to be posted and appear on the chart
5:08 pm:<Christine> i posted for session 0....3 times....today's bar does not show up
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> After the posting runs, the chart should update automatically to reflect the posting. I say "should". If it does not, close and reopen the chart and see if the bar is there
5:08 pm:<Christine> i closed and opened a new chart...twice
5:08 pm:<Christine> nothing
5:10 pm:<Christine> ok...some stocks are showing today's bar
5:10 pm:<Christine> some not
5:10 pm:<Christine> indu and comp are not
5:10 pm:<LS_Bill> what session are they in?
5:10 pm:<Hayden1> Chad, I'll try to give you more specific details in emails and maybe we can solve something. I'm so impressed with the impact of periodicity on the same trading rules....
5:11 pm:<Christine> session 0
5:11 pm:<Christine> i downloaded daily data for stocks from yahoo....that worked
5:11 pm:<LS_Bill> and you posted session zero, does INDU have a current datetime in the quotepage?
5:11 pm:<Hayden1> It affects when the Buy signal kicks in as well as the duration of trade and the profit/loss effect can be dramatic
5:11 pm:<LS_Bill> in other words are you receiving data on it?
5:12 pm:<LS_Bill> is INDU setup as an index? If it were mistakenly setup as a stock, it would have no volume and not post
5:12 pm:<Christine> no...it shows yesterday
5:12 pm:<LS_Bill> ok, that's why it did not post, there was no price update for today!
5:12 pm:<Christine> SPX shows 11/01/05
5:13 pm:<Christine> OEX shows 11/21/05
5:13 pm:<LS_Bill> this is IB feed right, you must have these indexes setup wrong
5:13 pm:<MPx> Bill you need 2 permanent part time beta testers for things like these...
5:13 pm:<Christine> how?
5:13 pm:<LS_Bill> tell me how you have INDU setup christine
5:13 pm:<Christine> in IRT?
5:14 pm:<LS_Bill> Setup: Instruments, security type, Exchange
5:14 pm:<Christine> it had stock there
5:15 pm:<LS_Bill> bingo
5:15 pm:<MPx> ;-)
5:15 pm:<LS_Bill> set it up as an index !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5:15 pm:<Christine> changed it but still not working
5:15 pm:<LS_Bill> exchange code please?
5:15 pm:<MPx> modify
5:15 pm:<LS_Bill> exchange for INDU is NYSE
5:16 pm:<Christine> yes
5:16 pm:<LS_Chad> For you TPO guys...I've now added a nice "highlighter" to go along with the info box
5:16 pm:<MPx> Chad how are the TPO enhancements I requested coming along?
5:16 pm:<MPx> ha
5:16 pm:<LS_Chad> the info box how shows "profile info", "row info", and "letter info"
5:16 pm:<MPx> timing
5:16 pm:<LS_Bill> check your other indexes, any of them that do not show quotes for today are not getting data from IB
5:17 pm:<Christine> maintain daily historical data is checked
5:17 pm:<LS_Bill> so you must have either the security type or the exchange code wrong
5:17 pm:<LS_Chad> and the "highlighter" basically responds as you move the cursor over any letter (tpo), and it highlights all of the same letters...along with all letters in the same row
5:17 pm:<LS_Bill> now that the market is closed you may have to stop data and start data to get an IB quote on these Christine
5:17 pm:<LS_Chad> so you can quickly see the range of any letter...and follow a given price/row across multiple profiles
5:18 pm:<LS_Bill> now, once you are getting quotes on these, and posting history each day when the market closes, all your daily charts will be updated
5:18 pm:<MPx> the highlighter is greyish?
5:18 pm:<LS_Bill> no need to download
5:18 pm:<MPx> easily visible?
5:18 pm:<LS_Chad> so far, "per profile" info includes: TPO, TFF, Q%, POC, RF, Volatility, Range
5:19 pm:<MPx> Vol
5:19 pm:<LS_Chad> "per row" info includes: Price, Volume, and TPOs
5:19 pm:<LS_Chad> "per letter" info includes: the letter, start time, high, and low
5:19 pm:<LS_Chad> hang on...I'll post a few snapshots
5:19 pm:<MPx> does per profile include Vol?
5:19 pm:<MPx> k
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> volume...no...but can add that
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> probably should also add "range" to the "per letter"
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> in addition to high and low
5:20 pm:<MPx> yes needed that
5:20 pm:<MPx> u dud I think
5:20 pm:<MPx> *did
5:20 pm:<MPx> range per letter
5:21 pm:<Christine> whata exchange do i use for spx?
5:22 pm:<LS_Bill> CBOE
5:22 pm:<LS_Bill> see http://www.linnsoft.com/symbols/
5:22 pm:<LS_Bill> that's where we put our symbol guide for common indexes, futures, etc.
5:23 pm:<LS_Bill> bookmark that page!!
5:23 pm:<GLoveday> Bill, did you get a chance to look at my files I sent. I'm having same problem as christine??
5:23 pm:<MPx> problem solved GL
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/snapshots/tpoHighlighter.jpg
5:23 pm:<LS_Bill> we I think we just determined that part of her problem was that her index symbols were setup as stocks and/or had the wrong exchange
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/snapshots/tpoHighlighterBlocks.jpg
5:24 pm:<LS_Bill> are you all set on that end Glove?
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> I'm already showing "range per profile" but not per letter
5:24 pm:<LS_Bill> are you getting quote from IB in your quotepage for all the symbols at issue?
5:24 pm:<GLoveday> I have mine set up correctly, i think. still don't get but 10 days of historical
5:24 pm:<LS_Bill> intra-day historical?
5:24 pm:<LS_Bill> or daily historical?
5:25 pm:<MPx> 14:00 is open time of letter
5:25 pm:<MPx> noce
5:25 pm:<MPx> nice
5:25 pm:<GLoveday> only get 10 days of daily from dtn
5:25 pm:<MPx> yes range per letter will be good
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> right
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> probably should add value areas
5:25 pm:<LS_Bill> ok in your daily chart, what is the view period setting?
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> in profile section
5:25 pm:<MPx> hmmm
5:26 pm:<MPx> will be in cahrt already
5:26 pm:<GLoveday> 2 years
5:26 pm:<MPx> *chart
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> true
5:26 pm:<GLoveday> changed to 1 year, and still get 10 days
5:26 pm:<MPx> I have more stuff to add
5:26 pm:<LS_Bill> and in the chart window, do you an indication of the "view period start date"?
5:26 pm:<MPx> but it's going to take some thinking
5:26 pm:<LS_Chad> well....if your profile is full page in height...there's ample room
5:27 pm:<LS_Chad> that's the reason I did it this way...instead of putting along bottom of chart
5:27 pm:<LS_Bill> if you widen the chart Glove, do you see a notation at the bottom of the window saying "View Period Begins....
5:27 pm:<MPx> right
5:27 pm:<GLoveday> no
5:28 pm:<LS_Bill> ok lets experiement a bit, change the view period to last 30 days
5:28 pm:<LS_Chad> and again, just hitting the tab key...toggles the infobox on/off (and for now, it toggles highlighter on/off...highlighter is only on when infobox on...that may change)
5:28 pm:<MPx> will it be hard on cpu to highlight last price in scale...needs a redraw every new price no?
5:28 pm:<MPx> current price I mean
5:29 pm:<LS_Bill> Gloveday, set vp to last 30 days, then tell me what the notation says at bottom of chart re view period begins...
5:29 pm:<GLoveday> now it says view period begins 11/14/05
5:30 pm:<Christine> ok....i have INDU in a daily chart now with View Period Begins 10/07/05
5:30 pm:<GLoveday> set to 30 days
5:30 pm:<LS_Bill> ok that's what I thought this is some kind of bug
5:30 pm:<LS_Chad> I'll look into that MPx
5:30 pm:<MPx> k
5:30 pm:<LS_Bill> ok Glove, do you have $demo setup in your IRT?
5:30 pm:<GLoveday> no
5:30 pm:<LS_Bill> if not add $DEMO as a ticker symbol
5:30 pm:<Christine> yes...i have it set for Last 30 days
5:30 pm:<LS_Bill> then switch that chart to$demo
5:31 pm:<LS_Bill> and click download to fill the chart with demo data
5:31 pm:<LS_Bill> then switch the chart b ack to whatever it was before
5:31 pm:<GLoveday> DEMO a stock or future??
5:31 pm:<LS_Bill> and click download, see if thatdoes any thing
5:31 pm:<LS_Bill> doesn't matter for $DEMO stock, future, index is fine
5:32 pm:<LS_Bill> must have $ in front of DEMO
5:32 pm:<Christine> changed back to last 2 years...and it filled
5:32 pm:<MPx> value are width
5:32 pm:<MPx> VA width
5:33 pm:<Christine> now how to i get all the other indexes, stocks and futures to do that....?
5:33 pm:<MPx> in points
5:33 pm:<LS_Bill> just type their symbols into that same chart and click download christine!
5:33 pm:<MPx> IB width
5:34 pm:<LS_Bill> this is some kind of view period start bug, Christine, Gloveday
5:34 pm:<MPx> opening range of first 2 mins 9:30-9:32
5:34 pm:<LS_Bill> that surfaces when there is not long term data on file for the symbols
5:34 pm:<MPx> with high and low
5:35 pm:<GLoveday> ok, I got 2 years of $demo in a chart
5:35 pm:<MPx> VA and IB width, opening range of first 2 minutes with high/low
5:35 pm:<LS_Bill> ok, now switchchart back to former symbol and click download
5:35 pm:<MPx> Chad?
5:35 pm:<LS_Bill> I'll get this figured out and fixed for good in 8.1.4
5:36 pm:<Christine> i changed symbol to INDU....hit download button...nothing
5:36 pm:<LS_Chad> I'm here MPx
5:36 pm:<MPx> see hwt I posted?
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> do you have INDU.X as the download alias?
5:36 pm:<MPx> *what
5:36 pm:<GLoveday> not getting any data for KKD
5:36 pm:<Christine> thanks Bill
5:36 pm:<MPx> VA and IB width, opening range of first 2 minutes with high/low
5:37 pm:<GLoveday> still only 10 days
5:37 pm:<MPx> then if you can put the mini opening range bracket on the chart
5:38 pm:<MPx> so we'll see a little opening range VA
5:38 pm:<LS_Chad> IB and VA width would be easy to do
5:38 pm:<LS_Chad> not sure about that 2-min width
5:38 pm:<Christine> have to go....thanks for the session..hopefully we can get this resolved for daily downloads....see you all next week Happy Thanksgiving
5:39 pm:<MPx> I'm giving away all the secrets!
5:40 pm:<LS_Bill> Gloveday, how do you have KKD setup?
5:40 pm:<Christine> oh....forgot...what is the exchange for SPX?
5:40 pm:<MPx> CBOE
5:40 pm:<Christine> thanks..duh
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> bookmark that page christine;-)
5:41 pm:<GLoveday> stock, KKD downloading alias
5:41 pm:<LS_Bill> is there perhaps a space before or after that KKD alias?
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> just grasping at straws, I cannot understand why this is happening
5:42 pm:<GLoveday> no
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> I'm running 8.1.3 release here and I added KKD as a new symbol, opened an chart and it fills with 2 years of data first try, no problem
5:43 pm:<GLoveday> I still only get 10 days of historical of any symbol in chart
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> try deleting the symbol and setting it up again
5:43 pm:<MPx> Bill issue me a IB/DTNIQ for XP for a week or a few days and I'll set up their symbols on my end to see if I can reproduce it
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> ok glove day, try this, make a brand new chart, File: New: Chart, for KKD, daily
5:43 pm:<Christine> Gloveday...i had to download my stocks from yahoo
5:43 pm:<MPx> the users in the trenches will always find problems you as the coder will not
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> just a simple chart and it should open the last 2 years,
5:44 pm:<LS_Bill> click download
5:44 pm:<LS_Bill> maybe the particular chart you are using is corrupted in some way that is blocking the download
5:44 pm:<LS_Bill> a fresh brand new chart works fine here at my end
5:45 pm:<GLoveday> ok did that, got 13 days of daily data.
5:45 pm:<Christine> bill....i just added a new symbol, AMD, to a new chart....and it filled with 9 days of data
5:45 pm:<Christine> that's it
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> hmmm
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> ok go to Setup: Prefs: Charts: Traditional and tell me what you have for your daily default setting
5:45 pm:<Christine> but if i go and download from yahoo..it will fill in to yesterday
5:46 pm:<MPx> did u add the symbol to the dtnma box also in the setup?
5:47 pm:<GLoveday> 2 years
5:47 pm:<LS_Bill> did you try a new chart also glove?
5:47 pm:<GLoveday> yes
5:47 pm:<Christine> Trad Chart Prefs: Tick: 2 hours; Mins: 7 days; Daily: 2 years; Weekly: 5 years; Monthly: 10 years
5:47 pm:<LS_Bill> and same last 10 days?
5:47 pm:<GLoveday> yes
5:48 pm:<Christine> MPx....not sure I follow your last ?
5:48 pm:<LS_Bill> very strange, I'm pulling my hair our here... I cannot make it do this running the same release version as you both are...
5:48 pm:<Christine> i'll send u my laptop....lol
5:48 pm:<LS_Bill> always fills in a full 2years for me
5:48 pm:<MPx> u added the new symbol but in the alternate symbol box did you add the symbol there also?
5:49 pm:<GLoveday> you requested that I zip my data and send to you. I did that last night.
5:49 pm:<MPx> at the bottom
5:49 pm:<GLoveday> yes we did
5:49 pm:<MPx> k
5:49 pm:<Christine> it's in there auto
5:49 pm:<Christine> for Downloading
5:50 pm:<LS_Bill> I got it but have not had a chance to fire it up yet. I'll do that later this evening or tomorrow
5:50 pm:<MPx> brokerage is empty?
5:50 pm:<Christine> y
5:50 pm:<MPx> try putting sysmbol in there
5:50 pm:<LS_Bill> now you are grasping at straws MPx, brokerage alias is not applicable here at all
5:50 pm:<MPx> im thinking if IB is broker and alias is dtnma..
5:51 pm:<MPx> I know
5:51 pm:<MPx> but...
5:51 pm:<Christine> didn't work
5:51 pm:<MPx> k
5:51 pm:<GLoveday> no
5:51 pm:<LS_Bill> brokerage alias it for say a dtn.iq user who must supply the IB alias for trading
5:51 pm:<MPx> yes I know
5:52 pm:<Christine> i bet it's something so simple we just can't see it
5:52 pm:<Christine> lol
5:52 pm:<MPx> small quirks do show up from time to time
5:52 pm:<Christine> agree MPx
5:52 pm:<MPx> Bill send me a 3 day license I'll try on my end
5:52 pm:<MPx> maybe it's a user setting
5:52 pm:<Christine> sometimes my charts first download with really wide spaces between the candles....
5:52 pm:<Christine> esp. the 5 min chart
5:52 pm:<Christine> have to hit download button over and over each day
5:53 pm:<Christine> i've learned it's best to have a chart set for each periodicity and not change it
5:53 pm:<MPx> hmm
5:53 pm:<Christine> forget i mentioned this!!!
5:53 pm:<GLoveday> I don't have that problem.
5:53 pm:<MPx> no no
5:53 pm:<Christine> just want the downloads to work..lol
5:54 pm:<Christine> MPx..do you have msn messenger....?
5:54 pm:<MPx> i'll test it to see if it's some related to the user settings somewhere
5:54 pm:<MPx> yes
5:54 pm:<MPx> I do
5:54 pm:<Christine> i think i can ask for remote help with msn messenger
5:55 pm:<Christine> thought is was kinda quiet today...where's Mike?
5:55 pm:<MPx> he;s in FLA
5:55 pm:<MPx> lucky guy
5:55 pm:<MPx> Im in the snow
5:55 pm:<LS_Bill> I'm going to take off and do some testing with Gloveday's database and see if I can find out what's going on with this downloading thing in the IB version
5:55 pm:<MPx> well Bill...i'm here to help
5:55 pm:<GLoveday> thanks bill
5:56 pm:<MPx> u know I find bugs if they're there!
5:56 pm:<LS_Bill> I'll keep you posted. 8.1.4 will be out soon with this fixed whatever it is.
5:56 pm:<LS_Bill> I wish everyone here a wonderful Thanksgiving
5:56 pm:<LS_Bill> give some thanks Thursday for all those good trades ;-)
5:57 pm:<MPx> lol
5:57 pm:<MPx> not in canada
5:57 pm:<MPx> ok all....have a good night....
5:58 pm:<LS_Bill> God doesn't care where the border is, you can be anywhere on the planet ;-)
5:58 pm:<MPx> lol
5:58 pm:<LS_Bill> nite
5:58 pm:<Hayden1> Thanks Bill, enjoy the mint julips on the porch
5:58 pm:<Christine> nite..and thanks Bill...
5:58 pm:<MPx> yes but's it's difeerent dates
5:58 pm:<Christine> thanks Mpx
5:58 pm:<MPx> ours was last month
5:58 pm:<Hayden1> I'm outta here too..
5:58 pm:<MPx> no problem
5:58 pm:<Christine> where in Canada?
5:59 pm:<MPx> Montreal
5:59 pm:<Christine> cool...i have an aunt there
5:59 pm:<MPx> oh yeah where exacty?
5:59 pm:<Christine> in a retirement home in town...rest of family is in Vancouver...sisters...etc.
5:59 pm:<MPx> ahh
5:59 pm:<MPx> have u been here?
5:59 pm:<Christine> not to Montreal...but Vancouver yes
5:59 pm:<MPx> k
6 pm:<MPx> beautiful up there
6 pm:<Christine> been to NB and Nova Scotia
6 pm:<Christine> but that's it
6 pm:<Christine> only went through Quebec on a buss 20 years ago...lol
6 pm:<MPx> LOL
6 pm:<MPx> ok
6 pm:<Christine> that was some ride..
6 pm:<Christine> but i was much younger
6 pm:<Christine> 5 days to cross the country
6 pm:<MPx> yes
6:01 pm:<Christine> and the trans canada hwy turned into a dirt road across the plains
6:01 pm:<MPx> wow
6:01 pm:<Christine> and i had to sit next to a miner who stank so bad i thought i was going to pass out
6:01 pm:<MPx> never been past Toronto
6:02 pm:<MPx> u sure that was 20 years?
6:02 pm:<MPx> lol
6:02 pm:<MPx> dirt road on the TCH must have been 70s
6:02 pm:<Christine> well...let's see..it was 1977
6:02 pm:<MPx> ah
6:02 pm:<MPx> ;-)
6:03 pm:<Christine> i had guts then
6:03 pm:<Christine> picked cherries in the Okanagan Valley
6:03 pm:<Christine> Kelowna area
6:03 pm:<MPx> nice