Chat Session Logs

4:22 pm:<zonez> hi Chad
4:23 pm:<LS_Chad> Hey
4:24 pm:<zonez> i use a slow stochastic is there a way i can do that w/ irt? %K %D %K slow
4:27 pm:<LS_Chad> sure
4:27 pm:<LS_Chad> the Stochastics indicator has that available
4:27 pm:<LS_Chad> the Raw %K, the Fast %D, and the Slow %D
4:27 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tour/techind/stoc.htm
4:28 pm:<zonez> ok will chk it out thx
4:28 pm:<LS_Chad> I guess your %K slow is just our Slow %D
4:32 pm:<Mike> hi Jes
4:32 pm:<jas> hi
4:32 pm:<tuna> chad can u put an indicator on a indicator,,,say a bol band on a stoch?
4:32 pm:<Mike> yes Tuna
4:33 pm:<Mike> IRT's language is very un restrictive
4:33 pm:<Christine> hi all
4:33 pm:<Mike> I do MA of MA a lot
4:35 pm:<MPx> I have my session set up t 9:30-4:15...the market re opened and I'm getting TPO's being added
4:36 pm:<MPx> not suppose to
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> sure tune....just use a custom indicator
4:37 pm:<Mike> Afernoon Bill
4:37 pm:<Christine> like a dummy...i put the daily download exe. fix file on my desktop and forgot to do it on the laptop....and I'm here in LA with my laptop and can' get daily downloads....is the file still available?
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> your specific request might be: BOLU(SLOWD)
4:37 pm:<LS_Bill> sure Christine
4:37 pm:<LS_Bill> need the link?
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> override session for TPO chart, MPx?
4:38 pm:<MPx> no..session is 9:30-4:15
4:38 pm:<MPx> no need to override
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> http://www.linnsoft.com/dl/win/fix/InvestRT_813_fix.zip
4:38 pm:<MPx> if overide it still prints TPO's
4:38 pm:<Christine> thanks, Bill
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> ok..session of symbols is 9:30 to 4:15...so how is the tpo chart setup?
4:38 pm:<MPx> very odd
4:39 pm:<MPx> 60 min 2 min per letter
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> multiple days? multiple profiles/day?
4:39 pm:<MPx> no matter the setup both charts are printing TPOs
4:39 pm:<MPx> i'll send screen shots
4:40 pm:<MPx> I normally run a 24hr session and use override
4:40 pm:<Mike> Bill I have a intraday tick based chart from 11/21 to present then tried teh dl button, and says in message log dl tick data for NO`Z from 11/28 to 11/29 Day 0 of 1 etc...
4:41 pm:<MPx> sent screen Chad
4:42 pm:<MPx> this problem only appeared when I set the instrument to a 9:30-4:15 session
4:42 pm:<Mike> MPX check you don't have 2 instruments maybe
4:42 pm:<MPx> nope
4:42 pm:<MPx> clean wipe and install 3 weeks ago
4:43 pm:<MPx> set to 24 hour works fine
4:43 pm:<MPx> tick based seems to continue to collect data
4:44 pm:<LS_Bill> tick data downloads from mytrack are not reliable. they also take a very very long time to complete when they are working.
4:44 pm:<Mike> agree there
4:44 pm:<Hayden> Hi all, I'll start with my bug
4:44 pm:<MPx> Like right now Chad I'm getting X periods
4:45 pm:<MPx> in my 60 min/2 min per letter
4:45 pm:<LS_Bill> what's the problem Hayden?
4:45 pm:<MPx> session 9:30-4:15
4:45 pm:<Hayden> Between the open and 4 pm the feed stops; when I restart IRT crashes. This is consistent every day
4:45 pm:<LS_Chad> what feed MPx
4:46 pm:<MPx> on my regular 30 min per letter Im getting Ns
4:46 pm:<Hayden> It only happens once. After that the feed is steady and no more crashes
4:46 pm:<MPx> Mytrack
4:46 pm:<LS_Bill> I have seen this myself. When stopping the feed. I have made some minor tweaks for 8.1.4 that hopefully will resolve this Hayden
4:47 pm:<Hayden> I was sure you would. Thanks Bill. Nice to be part of a group problem for a change
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> this was a strange one and I'm not 100% sure that my revisions will cure the problem. the proof is in the pudding as they say...
4:48 pm:<jas> Bill, does your demo version contain market profile? I am looking for a good MP provider
4:48 pm:<MPx> it's like the TPO charts won't stop collecting data as long as the instrument is active on a 24 hour period regardless of your instruments setup
4:48 pm:<Hayden> I'm not too excited about the slowness of the IB main feed and DTN for data fill in during market hours. Is quite slow, and sometimes doesn't work at all
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> 8.1.4 should be ready later this week
4:49 pm:<LS_Bill> I'm surprised to hear that.
4:49 pm:<Mike> Demo is full program
4:49 pm:<zonez> this IS the place JAS
4:49 pm:<LS_Bill> anyone else here using IB experience "slow" feed?
4:49 pm:<jas> k, thx mike
4:49 pm:<zonez> no bill
4:49 pm:<LS_Bill> jas, the free demo allows MP (TPO) charting on the $DEMO ticker symbol
4:49 pm:<jas> ok
4:50 pm:<LS_Bill> that is the only symbol that has "tick by tick" data for charting in the demo
4:50 pm:<LS_Chad> MPx...does this occur even if you setup the TPO to just be one standard profile / day (with 30-minute letters)?
4:50 pm:<MPx> yes
4:50 pm:<LS_Bill> you have to signup with a real feed to see real price time profiles
4:50 pm:<MPx> happening right now
4:50 pm:<MPx> only way to stop it....
4:51 pm:<MPx> add/remove one day and it clears the data that printed after the session close
4:51 pm:<MPx> but ticks will collect again on price chnages
4:51 pm:<LS_Bill> Hayden, how to you guage that the IB feed is "slow"
4:52 pm:<MPx> Chad check your email
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> I'm not seeing this in eSignal version....must be something specific to myTrack
4:52 pm:<Mike> dan i guess a symbol session confusion
4:52 pm:<Hayden> The regular feed from IB is just great, no complaints. But if I'm missing some bars, the DTN backup feed takes a long time to not filling at all
4:53 pm:<MPx> left side= the last 60 min 2/min per letter profile the right side = the 30 min per letter full day..... and it's still colecting data!
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> ah. so you are talking about the time it takes to backfill/download intra-day data.
4:53 pm:<Hayden> Yes, Bill
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> are you downloading ticks or just one minute bars?
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> in my experience a DTN bar fetch takes maybe 2 or 3 seconds?
4:54 pm:<Hayden> No ticks, I've tried everything from one minute to 30 minutes
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> are you doing this on many symbols at a time?
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> how long is it taking?
4:55 pm:<Hayden> I'm watching the chart. I'd estimate over 30 seconds for one symbol. So nothing about a batch download
4:55 pm:<MPx> Chad the candle/bar charts will show the current market 24hr price but it wont add that data to the chart...the TPO's wont stop collecting.....can't be a feed specific issue if only the TPO's are doing this?
4:56 pm:<LS_Bill> I see about 2 3 seconds
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> got mytrack running here...haven't noticed this yet but will keep an eye on it
4:57 pm:<Mike> Bill seems chart not asking mytrack for proper amount of days I have 8.1.3a version
4:57 pm:<Hayden> I'd be delighted with that speed
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> the very 1st time IRT does a DTN fetch, it takes longer since it has to login to the main dtn server for information
4:57 pm:<MPx> k
4:57 pm:<MPx> other than that....
4:57 pm:<MPx> tokens
4:57 pm:<MPx> for the TPO info box
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> after that first time, DTN data retrieval of bar data is usually very fast
4:57 pm:<Hayden> Aha, that helps to understand. But for me sometimes it seems to be missing the connection entirely. It won't fill in
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> can anyone here using DTN market access server confirm what I'm saying? Are there others seeing 30 second delays retrieving intra-day data from DTN Market access?
4:58 pm:<Hayden> There are two other weirdnesses I've been experiencing in charts......
4:59 pm:<Hayden> First is that bars are "poorly" drawn, like a skeleton line but the rest is not fleshed out. Especially the daily bar
5 pm:<LS_Chad> MPx, I've got a standard profile setup for NO`Z...last letter I've got is N
5 pm:<LS_Chad> and don't seem to be getting any new ticks/info into the chart
5 pm:<Hayden> The other strange thing is that I may have an old bar, from a day or two days back that shows a normal open and close shape, but then ...
5 pm:<MPx> then it's OS X specific
5 pm:<MPx> my Ns continue to move up
5 pm:<MPx> adding data
5:01 pm:<Hayden> another bar that shows as a high or a low, and that in turn creates a custom indicator that loops back on itself. Downloading fresh fill in date doesn't fix it
5:01 pm:<MPx> my 60 min 2 min per letter is printing X
5:01 pm:<MPx> I'm getting the current globex session data
5:02 pm:<MPx> added as we speak
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> there is code in there that weeds out ticks that come in when the session is closed
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> have you recently changed session of symbol?
5:02 pm:<MPx> session
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> if you close/reopen chart...continue to occur?
5:02 pm:<MPx> i'll try
5:05 pm:<MPx> new chart shows the real close 4:15 ...at first it was correct now as the new prices come in it started to add the data in the chart
5:06 pm:<MPx> showing me the current globex price now
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> and you say specifying an override session doesn't solve it either?
5:07 pm:<Mike> Bill I had to use dl dialog to get from 11/21 to present, so chart set to that period also then chart button not grabbing right period fyi 813a
5:07 pm:<MPx> only at first..then as the price changes the closing cursor will gap up to the 24 session
5:08 pm:<LS_Chad> the closing cursor...along with a new letter?
5:08 pm:<MPx> so yes no matter if I override or not..my TPO chart will collect the 24 hour data even if my instrument's session is 9:30-4:15
5:08 pm:<MPx> yes
5:09 pm:<MPx> as if I'm running a 24 hour session
5:09 pm:<Mike> should i try MP?
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> Mike...save and email me the chart definition and I'll take a look at download problem
5:09 pm:<MPx> only if you have a 9:30-4:15 session Mike
5:10 pm:<LS_Bill> ok mike, I'll look into it
5:10 pm:<Mike> i try a basic clean chart Chad i think it is not chart specific, but is a .5 change based chart
5:10 pm:<MPx> so if it's not happening in XP it's OS X specific
5:11 pm:<LS_Chad> Mike...should be downloading back to the last start of session...that not what you're seeing?
5:11 pm:<Mike> Jas others any questions? comments?
5:11 pm:<MPx> confirmed XP not having the same problem with identical data feeds and session setup
5:12 pm:<Mike> should ask for all days in chart. chart set to 11/21 to present
5:12 pm:<MPx> Bill u seeing this?
5:12 pm:<MPx> give it a try on OS X
5:13 pm:<LS_Chad> It just sounds to me that IRT is confused as to whether your session is open
5:13 pm:<LS_Chad> not sure how that could be OSX specific...but may be
5:13 pm:<MPx> y
5:13 pm:<Mike> maybe your db only Dan as I guessing something got confused when you switched sessions to test try a clean osx install to rule that out
5:13 pm:<MPx> because my XP version isn't doing it
5:14 pm:<Mike> any IRT news? plans?
5:14 pm:<MPx> I noticed this over 2 years now but because i switched t oa 24hr session it was not a problem
5:14 pm:<LS_Bill> 8.1.4 will be release later this week. Maintenance release, a few enhancements
5:14 pm:<MPx> but it's back!
5:15 pm:<MPx> nah Mike try it you'll see
5:15 pm:<MPx> put your ES or NO to 9:30-4:15 session
5:15 pm:<Mike> great 8.2 thoughts? playback? Xcode2?
5:15 pm:<MPx> see if the TPO still builds data
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> yea..would like to see if someone on OSX can reproduce this
5:16 pm:<MPx> Bill give it a shot
5:16 pm:<Mike> ok I try later after this dl
5:16 pm:<MPx> pweese
5:16 pm:<Mike> we need a IRT MP review sent into magazines :)
5:17 pm:<MPx> I can wipe the data form the chart if I add/remove one day but as soon as a price chart occurs it keeps on ticking
5:17 pm:<MPx> chart=change
5:17 pm:<MPx> sorry
5:18 pm:<MPx> soon
5:18 pm:<Mike> Bill I see AT has a TRAIL type order can that be added to Trade act i on order type please
5:19 pm:<MPx> wait until I Chad finishes adding the latest goodies along with some advanced studies i have planned....then those who are paying 10k a year for the top MP software will come this way.
5:20 pm:<MPx> u want institutional clients
5:20 pm:<Mike> can we get ud1 and md1 levels ?
5:20 pm:<MPx> no
5:20 pm:<MPx> unless you figure out a way to scan TPO
5:20 pm:<Mike> IRT has all TPO stats get chad formula
5:20 pm:<MPx> or all ticks in the database over 10 days
5:22 pm:<MPx> to get those levels you would need to scan all the ticks in the past 5/10/20 days and look for a specific amount of TPOs at price that occurred
5:22 pm:<MPx> would need to look for single prints and then the first triple prints
5:23 pm:<MPx> too complicated for a scan
5:23 pm:<MPx> can use my eyes for now
5:26 pm:<MPx> anyone try this yet?
5:26 pm:<MPx> BIll Mike?
5:26 pm:<Mike> yes
5:27 pm:<Christine> Hayden...i get the same thing sometimes....bar weirdness
5:29 pm:<MPx> did u try it Mike?
5:29 pm:<Mike> no db busy for hour dling
5:29 pm:<MPx> k
5:29 pm:<MPx> just try it for a minute
5:29 pm:<MPx> with a 9:30-4:15 session please
5:30 pm:<MPx> just tell me if you're getting data added to the TPO chart or not.
5:31 pm:<MPx> or else I'll have to do a new install on my 5 year old iMac
5:31 pm:<MPx> to test
5:31 pm:<Mike> one secd
5:33 pm:<Hayden> Chad, are you there?
5:34 pm:<jas> I am looking the supported data sources ... no Tradestation?
5:35 pm:<Mike> have to look on there site
5:35 pm:<Mike> most feeds support not TS thoguh
5:35 pm:<jas> I am looking at your site
5:35 pm:<Mike> dtn, mytrack, esig, ib
5:35 pm:<LS_Bill> IRT does not work with Tradestation
5:35 pm:<MPx> TS has their own direct feed withthe exchanges
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> Tradestation is a broker with their own software, we are competitors.
5:36 pm:<MPx> because they're are also a broker
5:36 pm:<MPx> y
5:36 pm:<jas> I am using tradestation but they do not have good MP support
5:37 pm:<MPx> almost nothing available for MP i TS
5:37 pm:<MPx> in*
5:37 pm:<jas> only price distribution and volume distribution on bars
5:37 pm:<Mike> IRT becoming best MP charts I hearing
5:37 pm:<MPx> and if you knew where to look you will pay $500 a year for a TPO chart that's nowhere as good as IRT's
5:38 pm:<MPx> for a TS plug in
5:38 pm:<MPx> the choice is obvious!
5:38 pm:<MPx> lol
5:38 pm:<jas> can't even find a plug in for the newest version of TS 8.1
5:39 pm:<MPx> sure u can
5:39 pm:<jas> can't
5:39 pm:<MPx> $500 a year to get it
5:39 pm:<jas> I looked
5:39 pm:<MPx> sirtrade
5:39 pm:<MPx> and not very good
5:39 pm:<Mike> IRT into IB broker better solution maybe
5:40 pm:<MPx> basic and locked
5:40 pm:<jas> I sent email to sirtrade , didn't even get a reply . their site said it support TS2000
5:40 pm:<MPx> can't add anything to it
5:40 pm:<MPx> ah
5:40 pm:<jas> TS2000 is old
5:41 pm:<MPx> that price distribution thing is horrible...spoke the developer...arrogant idiot