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4:21 pm:<Daniel> afternoon ladies and gents
4:23 pm:<Christine> hi Daniel
4:28 pm:<arno> hey Daniel
4:30 pm:<subq> big D in the house...what's up daniel
4:30 pm:<subq> in and out here
4:30 pm:<subq> bbias
4:32 pm:<Daniel> heyhey
4:33 pm:<Daniel> stepped wawy
4:33 pm:<Daniel> getting into the quiet holiday narkets already :-(
4:33 pm:<LS_Chad> Hey guys
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4:33 pm:<Daniel> still ok up until noon though
4:34 pm:<LS_Chad> A few things coming in beta 5
4:35 pm:<LS_Chad> I did lots of little stuff to make sure the VB indicator stays in synch (after refreshes or close/open) of tick-based charts....
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4:35 pm:<Daniel> explain that pleae Chad
4:35 pm:<Daniel> pleae*
4:35 pm:<LS_Chad> fixed the Profile indicator to work on tick-based charts
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4:35 pm:<Daniel> arrg
4:35 pm:<Daniel> please explain wht u did to fix the refresh VB data
4:36 pm:<LS_Chad> can now toggle ref lines on/off in MP charts by jsut double-clicking on any price
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4:36 pm:<LS_Chad> not going into that Daniel...very low level stuff such as handling of ticks on session boundary second
4:36 pm:<Daniel> does it effect the results Chad on extremes?
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> minor things that could throw VB off after a refresh or reload
4:37 pm:<Daniel> k
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> could...sure...slightly
4:37 pm:<Daniel> for the better or worse ?
4:37 pm:<LS_Chad> just know it should be solid in 8.6b5
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4:38 pm:<Daniel> meaning sis u put in a compromise that would make it stay the same with a refesh close/open or will it be exactly the same as now
4:38 pm:<Daniel> *did
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> it should, yes
4:38 pm:<LS_Chad> fixed the TPO indicator so it properly resets at the session open
4:39 pm:<Daniel> ok because it's perfect right now for what it does..i was worried that the results would change withthe fix you did
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> you can now shift-click on the "blocks" button in MP chart to cycle through all fonts
4:39 pm:<Daniel> for live data
4:39 pm:<LS_Chad> live data will not be effected
4:39 pm:<Daniel> perfect
4:39 pm:<subq> hey chad can you make volume profiles work something similar to this page:
4:39 pm:<subq> http://www.chart-ex.com/charts/emini_sp500_combo.htm
4:40 pm:<subq> we talked about it in chat last week
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> well...I take that back....for tick-based charts...the "fresh bar on session start" was not being honored in realtime at session open
4:40 pm:<LS_Chad> that has been fixed
4:40 pm:<Daniel> k
4:40 pm:<subq> where basically have a profile on the right can compare it with a merged profile on left (i.e. weekly, monthly)
4:41 pm:<LS_Chad> I probably can....when I find a couple of free days on my schedule
4:41 pm:<subq> seems to be a pretty big demand for just a basic volume profile
4:41 pm:<subq> for MP traders that is :)
4:41 pm:<Daniel> did u send Chad the chart I sent you subq?
4:41 pm:<subq> the comparison one?
4:41 pm:<Daniel> yes the old one..how it was
4:41 pm:<subq> i dont know if i forwarded that or not, he was out of town at the time
4:41 pm:<subq> let me find it
4:41 pm:<Daniel> ah
4:41 pm:<subq> i still ahve it
4:42 pm:<LS_Chad> I also fixed MP charts so that they don't do a full reload/recalc at session open..should help alot as far as resources at open
4:43 pm:<subq> i sent it
4:43 pm:<subq> thats a major one
4:43 pm:<subq> at open my whole system pauses for like 20 seconds
4:43 pm:<subq> of course i have a lot of charts open
4:43 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, this should help alot
4:43 pm:<subq> i would like to see IRT use more processor power :)
4:44 pm:<Daniel> yes u need to have less days of ticks based charts running ..especially if you have indicators on them
4:44 pm:<subq> IRT hardly ever even dings my processor at all
4:44 pm:<Daniel> I run 9 charts Zero hiccup
4:44 pm:<subq> but yet it can be sluggish
4:44 pm:<Daniel> all ticjs based
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> I added VAH & VAL to the info box of MP charts
4:44 pm:<Daniel> k
4:44 pm:<subq> chad you got the profile high/low in there too now right?
4:44 pm:<subq> that is going to be nice
4:45 pm:<subq> session high/low i should say
4:45 pm:<subq> for MP
4:45 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...think so...as I recall
4:45 pm:<Daniel> oh...I noticed the PPH and PPL was added but one of them wasn't woring...fixed now?
4:45 pm:<subq> well i know it isnt my system that lags :)
4:45 pm:<Daniel> previous profile high/low
4:45 pm:<subq> i bought a brand new dual core 2
4:45 pm:<LS_Chad> PPH?
4:45 pm:<subq> 10k sata2 drive
4:46 pm:<Daniel> oh we're talking the same thing I see
4:46 pm:<subq> 2gb ram
4:46 pm:<LS_Chad> =HI, =LO, =DHI, =DLO
4:46 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/qa/a/102.htm
4:46 pm:<LS_Chad> which wasn't working?
4:46 pm:<Daniel> k thnx
4:46 pm:<Daniel> the high
4:46 pm:<LS_Chad> =HI?
4:46 pm:<Daniel> y
4:46 pm:<subq> oh you already added it on the page cool
4:46 pm:<subq> that is in the latest beta?
4:46 pm:<subq> im running beta4
4:47 pm:<Daniel> let me try b4
4:47 pm:<LS_Chad> seems to work fine
4:47 pm:<Daniel> k
4:47 pm:<Daniel> thnx
4:47 pm:<Daniel> oh u have a 1020 chart set up...it was on that setting I had trouble
4:48 pm:<Daniel> trying it now
4:48 pm:<LS_Chad> subq, as far as old style VP...have you tried just unchecking the "volume breakdown" checkbox
4:49 pm:<subq> yeah it isnt the same
4:49 pm:<subq> especially if we want to do the comparison
4:49 pm:<LS_Chad> what's not the same?
4:50 pm:<subq> the style/look
4:50 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/12/05/Footprint__Delta_2.png
4:50 pm:<LS_Chad> what aspect?
4:51 pm:<subq> maybe it's a size thing, not sure
4:51 pm:<subq> i tried to get a whole month on ther like on that page
4:51 pm:<subq> http://www.chart-ex.com/charts/emini_sp500_combo.htm
4:51 pm:<LS_Chad> you have alot more options now
4:51 pm:<LS_Chad> and scale on right
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4:52 pm:<subq> but i would still like to see a side by side somehow, i know that is major programming work
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> I did some work in past few releases to allow you to zoom out much more
4:52 pm:<subq> will we ever get lines on those volume profiles?
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> so try again, I'll think you'll be happy with it
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> possibly
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> Trevor is asking for it
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> would you rather have lines all the way across chart
4:52 pm:<subq> daniel what aspect do you find diff from old and new?
4:52 pm:<LS_Chad> or maybe just a column of significat prices...with label in the colum
4:53 pm:<subq> i looked at that image daniel sent me and i wasnt able to get it like that but i will give it a shot again
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> when did you try? what version?
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4:53 pm:<Daniel> hmmm this aint working =HI with a special duration setting of 1020 then =HI set to V#1 then V#1 ref line on a range chart doesnt show up
4:53 pm:<subq> i like to look at the daily profile vs the weekly vs the monthly
4:53 pm:<Daniel> no work
4:53 pm:<subq> i didnt realize that =hi feature was even in beta4
4:53 pm:<subq> i hadnt tried it
4:54 pm:<subq> im still using my work around
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> here is a 30 day composite:
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/12/05/Footprint__Delta_3.png
4:56 pm:<subq> that with the POC turned off?
4:56 pm:<subq> looks like poc is way up top which doesnt seem right
4:56 pm:<Daniel> too horizontal
4:56 pm:<Daniel> can u squeeze it to 2 inches
4:56 pm:<aarbvark> Did I miss the chat topic, or are we allowed questions unrelated to profile?
4:56 pm:<subq> yeah that's what looks different
4:56 pm:<subq> too wide
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> working fine here on beta 4 Dan
4:57 pm:<subq> need to be able to make it smaller in width
4:57 pm:<Daniel> chmmm
4:57 pm:<Daniel> *hmm
4:57 pm:<Daniel> cant get =HI or =LO to show up on a range chart
4:57 pm:<subq> hmmm so like if there was a setting that said 1 pixel per 1000 volume or something would squeeze it
4:57 pm:<Daniel> trying aagin
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.charthub.com/images/2006/12/05/Footprint__Delta_4.png
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, poc seems marked wrong for some reason...I'll look into that
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> poc is pretty clear without being market....just widest bar
4:58 pm:<Daniel> y
4:58 pm:<subq> well not that is squeezed in nicely
4:58 pm:<Daniel> yeah but leaves me out of it still!
4:59 pm:<subq> something you could do on POC is shade that BAR dark or something
4:59 pm:<subq> that would make it stand out too
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> still plan on maybe making it available in that form to IRT users...will see
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4:59 pm:<Daniel> sisnce I don't have the MD and just want a plain VP..
4:59 pm:<Daniel> ok thnx
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> waiting for Bill to get back in the loop, and discuss w/ him
4:59 pm:<subq> yeah dont need the footprint, just the profile :)
4:59 pm:<Daniel> k
4:59 pm:<LS_Chad> his dad passed by the way...coming back tomorrow possibly
5 pm:<Daniel> he did!!!!
5 pm:<Daniel> ??
5 pm:<Daniel> man I was wondering about that last week
5 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, been ill for a while, was not unexpected
5 pm:<Daniel> ouch
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> Here's his obit: http://www.fayobserver.com/obituaries/memorial?id=248512
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> pretty impressive life he lived
5:01 pm:<Daniel> going to read it...thnx
5:01 pm:<Daniel> war vet and all
5:01 pm:<Daniel> have a friend like that..mazing peopl
5:02 pm:<Daniel> let me try the =HI/LO...one sec
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, spent 33 yearrs in military, and much of his later in a ministry for youth
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> I tried in beta 4 and worked fine here
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> maybe you have something else setting V#1?
5:03 pm:<Daniel> all cleaned up ..I killed evey V# usage last week
5:03 pm:<subq> i need to clean mine up
5:03 pm:<subq> they are crazy nasty
5:03 pm:<subq> pulling poc's and highs lows from 3 diff charts
5:03 pm:<subq> really only needed 2
5:03 pm:<subq> and nowi can use the =hi thing
5:04 pm:<subq> much cooler
5:04 pm:<LS_Chad> I need to cut out shortly....any last questions?
5:04 pm:<aarbvark> Yes..
5:05 pm:<aarbvark> How does one overlay two instruments on same scale(chart)?
5:05 pm:<Daniel> lol..nope not working...tried different variables
5:05 pm:<LS_Chad> click on chart..and hit "shift-insert"
5:06 pm:<Daniel> tpo setting = speacial duration of 1020
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> choose second symbol
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, I tried that..worked fine
5:06 pm:<Daniel> hmm
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> label: =HI, value: V#1
5:06 pm:<aarbvark> I see the "add to window pane" now...thanks
5:06 pm:<LS_Chad> ok
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> might need to use "multi-scales" after adding
5:07 pm:<Daniel> yes tried that and the ref line is set to that V#...but on a range chart
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> can do that by double-clicking in scale at right...
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> hmm...
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> well, I just had my V# as a quotepage column..shows correct value
5:07 pm:<Daniel> try that on a range chart Chad
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> try closing / reopening MP chart
5:07 pm:<Daniel> k
5:07 pm:<LS_Chad> then just slightly resize the chart with ref line on it (to force redraw)
5:08 pm:<subq> mine isnt working either i dont think
5:08 pm:<subq> let me open a dynamic
5:08 pm:<subq> i am setting the v# in 1020
5:08 pm:<Rrick> Hi guys;-)
5:08 pm:<Daniel> hmm..nope...not working here still
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> Hey rrrrrrrrrrrick
5:09 pm:<Rrick> How about a minor tweak to the trend line?
5:09 pm:<Daniel> all the rest are working fine....
5:09 pm:<subq> on es it should be 1417.50
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> daniel, if you add that V# to quotepage containing the symbol..what value does it show?
5:09 pm:<subq> but it's not even showing up on my chart as a ref line
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> what's that rick?
5:09 pm:<Daniel> will try that
5:09 pm:<LS_Chad> no, it won't show up on the MP chart itself...
5:10 pm:<LS_Chad> just used to extract the value into a V# to be used elsewhere
5:10 pm:<subq> i have a chart im setting it on...and a diff MP chart im trying to view the v# variable
5:10 pm:<subq> it shows the other ones i have set
5:10 pm:<Rrick> There is a project to present and extend into the past... Add a choice of number of bars to extend...
5:10 pm:<subq> but not the =HI
5:10 pm:<LS_Chad> on the MP chart?
5:10 pm:<LS_Chad> like what?
5:10 pm:<subq> i have poc's set too
5:10 pm:<subq> =POC
5:10 pm:<subq> in other v# variables
5:10 pm:<subq> on my base chart
5:10 pm:<subq> those are working
5:11 pm:<Daniel> wow it shws some odd #s
5:11 pm:<subq> hahah
5:11 pm:<subq> yeah i just got same thing
5:11 pm:<Daniel> shows -106 and -107
5:11 pm:<subq> i set it to low
5:11 pm:<subq> and it is showing 1406.00
5:11 pm:<subq> as the ES lo
5:11 pm:<Daniel> in the QP with the V#
5:11 pm:<LS_Chad> I've added to my list rick...will see what I can do
5:11 pm:<subq> but it should be 1410.25
5:12 pm:<Mike> hi aal
5:12 pm:<Daniel> hmm..mine are showing prices 500 points away
5:12 pm:<Rrick> Great Chad ;-) That would be nice!
5:13 pm:<LS_Chad> hmm....don't know why that's not working for you...working perfectly here...
5:13 pm:<subq> diff build? mine isnt working either
5:14 pm:<Daniel> wait im showing left price pane ony
5:14 pm:<Daniel> only*
5:14 pm:<Daniel> let me try a few things
5:14 pm:<subq> why would that matter? im showing right only
5:14 pm:<LS_Chad> share you chart...let me test it
5:14 pm:<LS_Chad> share w/ def
5:14 pm:<subq> would have to share 2 though wouldnt it?
5:15 pm:<subq> the base chart setting the v# andthe chart referencing the v#
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> just share MP chart
5:15 pm:<subq> both of mine are MP charts
5:15 pm:<subq> if that matters
5:15 pm:<subq> it shouldnt
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> I just want the one setting the HI
5:16 pm:<subq> is ther a qick way to change share options?
5:16 pm:<subq> or i have to go into settings?
5:16 pm:<LS_Chad> setup: prefs: sharing
5:16 pm:<subq> ok i have to change it in settings one sec
5:17 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, Bill and I had an argument on that..I wanted prefs to popup each time...so you'd have option each time of what to share
5:17 pm:<LS_Chad> but you can always set it to just "ask you"
5:17 pm:<LS_Chad> best way to go...as far as sharing def
5:17 pm:<Daniel> hmm..added to ES/ER/NQ and only shows up in ER but way off by 500 points..wont even show up inthe QP V# for ES/NQ
5:17 pm:<aarbvark> Chad, back to adding an instrument to the same window pane: is there any way to merge the price scales?
5:18 pm:<subq> chad check that i set it on v#18
5:18 pm:<Mike> ub new web changes soon?
5:18 pm:<LS_Chad> right....need to do a multi-scale
5:18 pm:<LS_Chad> double-clck in the scale at right to bring up prefs...and check multi-scling
5:18 pm:<subq> mike as soon as next release
5:19 pm:<subq> with the unique user stuff
5:19 pm:<Daniel> "Use Multi Scale as Required"
5:19 pm:<subq> then changes will happen
5:19 pm:<Mike> ok and search?
5:19 pm:<Mike> new left side stuff?
5:19 pm:<subq> actually we should have got a search in before that
5:19 pm:<subq> i will talk to programmer and find out what the hold up is on search :)
5:19 pm:<Mike> great
5:19 pm:<Mike> then view day liek to one click also
5:19 pm:<aarbvark> thanks :-)
5:19 pm:<Mike> liek left side is now
5:20 pm:<Mike> one click is great to see charts fast
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5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> ok...it seems to have to do with which ref line you use
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> use the one at the top...and it will work
5:20 pm:<subq> eek
5:20 pm:<LS_Chad> bottom ones don't seem to be working...will fix..thanks
5:20 pm:<subq> so basically the =hi and =lo has to be at the top?
5:20 pm:<Daniel> LOL
5:20 pm:<Daniel> k
5:20 pm:<subq> or what?
5:21 pm:<subq> you can only use one?
5:21 pm:<Daniel> top of the choices of the 8 lines I think
5:21 pm:<LS_Chad> I think maybe if you use the top 5 ref line slots...it will work for =HI
5:21 pm:<LS_Chad> I'll have to dig in and fix that tomorrow..
5:21 pm:<subq> and the bottom ones for =lo?
5:21 pm:<Daniel> k
5:21 pm:<subq> ok
5:21 pm:<subq> np
5:21 pm:<Daniel> all was using the bottom 3
5:21 pm:<Daniel> ;-)
5:21 pm:<LS_Chad> except me
5:21 pm:<subq> heheh yep
5:22 pm:<Daniel> I have an idea then...
5:22 pm:<LS_Chad> gotta run guys....have a good evening
5:22 pm:<Daniel> wait!
5:22 pm:<subq> thx chad
5:22 pm:<Daniel> 8 mins left
5:22 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:22 pm:<LS_Chad> no..bye! :)
5:22 pm:<Daniel> Chad how about
5:22 pm:<Daniel> adding it as a standrad check box
5:22 pm:<LS_Chad> email your complaints to support :)
5:22 pm:<subq> lol
5:22 pm:<Mike> he he
5:22 pm:<Daniel> no complaints
5:22 pm:<subq> no..bye!~
5:22 pm:<Mike> post log reminder
5:22 pm:<Rrick> Thank you Chad!
5:23 pm:<Mike> we can all still chat
5:23 pm:<subq> wait
5:23 pm:<subq> no
5:23 pm:<Mike> help each other
5:23 pm:<subq> bye
5:23 pm:<subq> ;)
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> yea, just what we need...more prefs in that window :) I'm gonna have to do tabbed interface soon
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> see ya guys
5:23 pm:<Daniel> add the =HI =LO as a standard check box inthe MP charts
5:23 pm:<Mike> good
5:23 pm:<Mike> tabbs are great
5:23 pm:<subq> that would work
5:23 pm:<Daniel> need all the ref lines I use
5:23 pm:<Mike> should use tabs anwasy
5:23 pm:<subq> like VAL VAL
5:23 pm:<Daniel> y
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> chat among youselves :)
5:23 pm:<Daniel> LOL
5:23 pm:<subq> IB
5:23 pm:<Daniel> ok ok
5:23 pm:<Daniel> get going...enjoy
5:24 pm:<subq> daniel get your ninja5 stuff working?
5:24 pm:<Daniel> yeah I have to dump EVERYTHING I worked on for the past 8 months
5:24 pm:<subq> ack
5:24 pm:<Mike> ninja cahnge?
5:24 pm:<subq> man i need to redo all my v#'s
5:24 pm:<subq> that is going to suck
5:24 pm:<Daniel> not fast enough nor realiable enough across multiple accounts
5:24 pm:<subq> 4 instruments
5:25 pm:<subq> tons of v#s set
5:25 pm:<Daniel> perfect for one accout though
5:25 pm:<Daniel> yes
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> they'll all work in b5 subq
5:25 pm:<Daniel> TONS
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> just wait a day or 2
5:25 pm:<Daniel> ok
5:25 pm:<subq> yeah i need to redo them for other reasons though chad
5:25 pm:<subq> i have too many :)
5:25 pm:<Mike> ninja change Dan?
5:25 pm:<Daniel> yes Mike..but I havent tied NT6 yet
5:25 pm:<subq> im running nt6
5:25 pm:<subq> so far so good
5:25 pm:<Daniel> he was asking about NT5 ussues I had
5:25 pm:<subq> one problem...it's beta
5:25 pm:<subq> no commisions!
5:26 pm:<Mike> ok
5:26 pm:<subq> sux
5:26 pm:<Daniel> oh!!?
5:26 pm:<subq> doesnt calculate them
5:26 pm:<Mike> get ray to fix his api
5:26 pm:<subq> ninja told me about it though
5:26 pm:<Daniel> oh oh thought u menat no comiisons payable to TT
5:26 pm:<Mike> so irt gets better feedaback mroe directly without those tricks you all do geez
5:26 pm:<subq> its supposed to calculate from broker
5:26 pm:<Daniel> I wuld say in beta if that was the case LOL
5:26 pm:<subq> hey Daniel since you use ninja does yours show your account balance?
5:26 pm:<Daniel> yes
5:26 pm:<subq> mine never has
5:26 pm:<subq> not even ninja5
5:26 pm:<Daniel> at IB
5:27 pm:<subq> well that sux
5:27 pm:<Daniel> not the otherbroker
5:27 pm:<subq> must be my broker
5:27 pm:<Daniel> y
5:27 pm:<subq> that is just stupid...it is the only trading platform ive used that doesnt show me my balance at the broker
5:27 pm:<subq> it's always 0
5:27 pm:<subq> and this is supposed to be the best way to do it ninja/zenfire
5:27 pm:<subq> doesnt seem "best" to me ;)
5:28 pm:<subq> i will admit the feed and fills are pretty good
5:28 pm:<subq> but still
5:28 pm:<Daniel> y
5:29 pm:<Mike> wonderr there any good audio multi person chats?
5:29 pm:<Mike> caht software
5:29 pm:<subq> no
5:29 pm:<subq> paltalk
5:29 pm:<subq> is what im on
5:29 pm:<subq> and it sux
5:29 pm:<subq> there is actually some good software
5:29 pm:<subq> but you have to run a server
5:29 pm:<Daniel> yahoo or pal
5:29 pm:<subq> it is all gaming software :)
5:29 pm:<Mike> you ahve server?
5:30 pm:<Mike> woodie has new clients
5:30 pm:<subq> i could run one
5:30 pm:<Mike> wish we had a great software for us to use
5:30 pm:<Daniel> for GRAW!!!??
5:30 pm:<Mike> and a great tradign room group would be great
5:30 pm:<subq> here is oneof them
5:30 pm:<subq> http://www.goteamspeak.com/
5:30 pm:<Daniel> of that
5:30 pm:<subq> there is one other one
5:30 pm:<Mike> great sub think about it ok?
5:30 pm:<Daniel> I've used it beofre Skype
5:30 pm:<Mike> beast is easy free good qualioty and text also and text logs
5:30 pm:<subq> teamspeak is solid...gamers use it and they are demanding :)
5:31 pm:<Mike> want to try sub?
5:31 pm:<Daniel> team speak is nast sounding though
5:31 pm:<subq> but not sure i would be in a woodies room :)
5:31 pm:<Mike> yahoo calls are great
5:31 pm:<Mike> ichat are great
5:31 pm:<Mike> skype is great
5:31 pm:<subq> team speak sound bad?
5:31 pm:<Daniel> y
5:31 pm:<subq> shouldnt
5:31 pm:<Mike> love to have a good one for us and agodo traders room
5:31 pm:<subq> depends on the server setting sprobably
5:31 pm:<Daniel> and feedback and has these nasty volume spikes..weird
5:31 pm:<Mike> you da boss sub
5:31 pm:<Mike> i am willing to try
5:31 pm:<Daniel> like if two ppl try to hit the talk button at the same time
5:31 pm:<Mike> there and good ones with text?
5:32 pm:<subq> i will do a little research
5:32 pm:<Mike> great sub
5:32 pm:<subq> and try to find others
5:32 pm:<Mike> apprecaite it thanks
5:32 pm:<Mike> be great to have a room
5:32 pm:<Mike> like pal text and audioo
5:32 pm:<Daniel> for?
5:32 pm:<Mike> for us traders
5:32 pm:<subq> why not just use crappy paltalk
5:32 pm:<Mike> could do i guess
5:32 pm:<Daniel> helping everyone make $ u mean?
5:33 pm:<subq> would have to charge money if daniel was in there
5:33 pm:<Daniel> LOL
5:33 pm:<subq> trade secrets
5:33 pm:<subq> :)
5:33 pm:<Mike> nah jsut companionship or trader talk but you right no helpin trade make $
5:33 pm:<Mike> if sub has good solution migh tbe great
5:33 pm:<Mike> heck idealling get audio client into IRT
5:33 pm:<subq> i already listen to a bunch of MP traders during the day
5:33 pm:<Mike> so need pen source or c code for them tio use
5:33 pm:<Rrick> Maybe this is a bit off 8-) Take a look at croquet...
5:33 pm:<Mike> liek thye made irc client
5:34 pm:<subq> now that would be interesting
5:34 pm:<subq> audio client in irt
5:34 pm:<Mike> but skype is great
5:34 pm:<Mike> free
5:34 pm:<subq> that connects to like a charthub room
5:34 pm:<Mike> IRT should use skype for support aroudn world free
5:34 pm:<Mike> yes chart hub room is idea
5:34 pm:<subq> i forgot my skype account :)
5:34 pm:<Daniel> BIll wont go for that...
5:34 pm:<subq> i signed up for one a while back
5:34 pm:<Mike> in assocaition irt charthub and talkhub!
5:34 pm:<Mike> TALKHUB
5:34 pm:<Rrick> One more time... Mike, look at Croquet ;-)
5:34 pm:<Daniel> he charges if you want help on the phone
5:35 pm:<subq> dont do it for support
5:35 pm:<Mike> fien traders room
5:35 pm:<Mike> ok rick
5:35 pm:<Mike> i lookie
5:35 pm:<Mike> it free good rick?
5:35 pm:<Daniel> no way Bill would allow free chat IRT support voice chat
5:35 pm:<Mike> fien dan no need bill
5:35 pm:<Mike> we make a free grat talkhub room
5:35 pm:<Rrick> Does your head spin around?
5:35 pm:<Mike> croquet on mac client?
5:35 pm:<Mike> url?
5:36 pm:<Daniel> right...also I thinkhe wont want to put voice chat code inot a trading program for data aqisistion reasons
5:36 pm:<Rrick> All p2p on many platforms...
5:36 pm:<Mike> ok
5:36 pm:<Daniel> typos will adjust themselves as u read my text ;-)
5:36 pm:<Mike> rick is it a many to many talk rooms?
5:36 pm:<subq> the idea is interesting
5:36 pm:<subq> definitely not something i would really do :)
5:37 pm:<subq> audio chat in your trading software
5:37 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:37 pm:<subq> but i chose my words carefully
5:37 pm:<Mike> ok lets research it
5:37 pm:<Mike> talkhub maybe be cool
5:37 pm:<subq> irt should look into the support software I use
5:37 pm:<subq> to support customers
5:37 pm:<subq> it's expensive but it rocks :)
5:38 pm:<subq> gets past firewalls and whatnot
5:38 pm:<Mike> they use email and phones :)
5:38 pm:<Rrick> Just take a look Mike it is way cool...
5:38 pm:<Mike> he he
5:38 pm:<Mike> ok rick i search for it now
5:38 pm:<subq> it costs me $130/month per technician
5:38 pm:<Daniel> yeah the problemwith support software is that they charge $ for help if someone is kinda lost..when I call you can almost never get him on the phone....he may call you back but...he prefers to keep that customer/programmer buffer
5:38 pm:<subq> its worth it if you do support though
5:39 pm:<subq> support software lets you chat live and then control their desktop
5:39 pm:<subq> i get support calls done in like 1/4 of the time
5:39 pm:<subq> then having to walk people through junk
5:39 pm:<Mike> hard to find Rick
5:39 pm:<Daniel> right like VNC
5:40 pm:<subq> yep
5:40 pm:<subq> it is like VNC
5:40 pm:<Mike> i used and liek vnc
5:40 pm:<subq> but it's on steroids, i can see what processes are running etc etc
5:40 pm:<subq> as long as customer approves it
5:40 pm:<Mike> control my mac fro m anotehr city :)
5:40 pm:<subq> and they dont have to install something
5:40 pm:<Daniel> or my favorite..ARD
5:40 pm:<subq> they just runt he file fromt he web
5:40 pm:<Rrick> Try http://www.opencroquet.org
5:41 pm:<Daniel> yeah Apple Remote Desktop is xclnt
5:41 pm:<subq> but what im using is very simlar to OCVNC which is a port of ultravnc
5:41 pm:<subq> one click
5:41 pm:<arno> I control my mac from mt treo
5:41 pm:<arno> *my
5:41 pm:<subq> it connects to a relay server which gets it back to the tech
5:41 pm:<Daniel> looking at croquet one sec
5:41 pm:<Mike> me to
5:41 pm:<subq> danial what is ARD?
5:41 pm:<Mike> apple remote desktop
5:41 pm:<Daniel> apple remot desktop
5:42 pm:<subq> oh
5:42 pm:<Daniel> best in the biz
5:42 pm:<subq> i dont do much apple :)
5:42 pm:<subq> i use remote desktop though
5:42 pm:<Daniel> an Apple a day keeps viruses away!
5:42 pm:<Daniel> hehe
5:42 pm:<subq> did you see the latest CERT report?
5:42 pm:<subq> apple had a billion exploits
5:42 pm:<Rrick> So does Unix and CERT
5:43 pm:<subq> exageration but ive never seen them have that many
5:43 pm:<subq> i was going sheesh
5:43 pm:<Daniel> yeah bogus report
5:43 pm:<subq> we are using two apps for support
5:43 pm:<subq> http://www.networkstreaming.com/
5:43 pm:<Mike> neat to bea ble to share desktop or a window to a room also
5:44 pm:<Mike> liek woodie or hotcomm did does
5:44 pm:<subq> https://secure.logmeinrescue.com/HelpDesk/Home.aspx
5:44 pm:<subq> network streaming is cross platform
5:44 pm:<Daniel> croquet is nice
5:44 pm:<Mike> it aduio?
5:44 pm:<Rrick> It will take you a while to get your head around it;-)
5:44 pm:<Daniel> saw someone working on a similar product for OSX 3 d environment
5:45 pm:<Mike> seesm graphics
5:45 pm:<Mike> i'l liek audio text , amaybe share chart live
5:45 pm:<Daniel> u need to talk to me Mike or what?
5:46 pm:<Daniel> if not I'm outta here
5:46 pm:<Rrick> This is the real stuff... Not a 3d desktop... P2P shaired environment...
5:46 pm:<subq> im outa here as well, have to get this server finished up
5:46 pm:<Daniel> oh wait
5:46 pm:<subq> i need a warehouse
5:47 pm:<Rrick> The 3d is just fluff...
5:47 pm:<subq> these dell pe2900s are huge
5:47 pm:<subq> have 4 mail servers im building so im overloaded
5:47 pm:<Daniel> how can I install Donet without the microshaft windows verification installer check...I have a bare clean installation and dont want to install any windows updates
5:48 pm:<subq> windows updates are good
5:48 pm:<subq> just dont install ie7
5:48 pm:<subq> :)
5:48 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:49 pm:<Rrick> Time to walk... If you have any question about Croquet, you have my email Mike;-) Bye...
5:49 pm:<subq> if you are worried about it screwing up your setup
5:49 pm:<subq> install firstdefense-ISR
5:49 pm:<subq> then do all the updates