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Support Chat Session (01/16/07)
4:33 pm:<Daniel> good afternoon
4:33 pm:<Cliff> Hello
4:35 pm:<LS_Bill> everyone on 8.6.1 ?
4:35 pm:<Daniel> I
4:36 pm:<Daniel> will monitor the tick based chart improvements tomorrow...thought I was going crazy wihthe inconsistency with refreshed charts where signals are concerned
4:36 pm:<Cliff> Still on 8.6
4:36 pm:<Daniel> fingers crossed
4:37 pm:<LS_Bill> yes, chad did some great work on this for 8.6.1
4:37 pm:<Daniel> should be good for E-Signal users especially
4:37 pm:<LS_Bill> the volume breakdown has become a great microscope for tick data and has enabled us to see things that were hard to see before
4:37 pm:<LS_Bill> yes
4:38 pm:<Daniel> ahh yes
4:38 pm:<Daniel> many things that I myself had issues with over the years with range charts
4:38 pm:<Daniel> good
4:38 pm:<LS_Bill> DTN is much better to and will be even better shortly when they begin transmitting a tick sequence number we can use to precisely merge the ticks
4:38 pm:<Daniel> ah ok
4:39 pm:<fcat> hi all
4:40 pm:<Cliff> speaking of VB, Chad had mentioned in an email correspondence the possibility of adding % Volume on Uptick/Downtick to VB; is this something you anticipate doing?
4:40 pm:<fcat> on 8.6.0 here
4:41 pm:<fcat> as of today
4:41 pm:<fcat> can see 1m charts still messed up
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4:41 pm:<subq> is there a URL going over new features in 8.6.1?
4:41 pm:<Daniel> fcat man oh man what is wrong with your charts!!!
4:41 pm:<Daniel> this is like 6 months now
4:42 pm:<fcat> lol...at least
4:42 pm:<LS_Bill> yes subg
4:42 pm:<LS_Bill> subq
4:42 pm:<LS_Bill> goto linnsoft.com/new I think
4:42 pm:<Daniel> how come no one else says their 1 minute charts have no problems?
4:42 pm:<Daniel> I don't get it.
4:42 pm:<fcat> all previous 1m data "disappears" when new session opens
4:42 pm:<Daniel> opps double negative in their
4:42 pm:<LS_Bill> fcat still not on 8.6.1?
4:43 pm:<Daniel> there*
4:43 pm:<fcat> 8.6.0 Bill
4:43 pm:<fcat> I think
4:43 pm:<fcat> will check
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4:43 pm:<LS_Bill> ok, lets see if 861 solves it
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> yea Cliff...I'll probably get to that eventually....divide up volume by uptick/dntick instead of bid/ask vol
4:44 pm:<LS_Chad> possibly before next release
4:44 pm:<fcat> yep...8.6.0
4:45 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/new/
4:45 pm:<Cliff> Chad, thank you; sounds great!
4:45 pm:<Rrick> fcat on a Mac?
4:46 pm:<fcat> no windoze box rick
4:46 pm:<fcat> check charthub dan
4:46 pm:<fcat> this is what happens to my 1m charts
4:46 pm:<Daniel> k
4:46 pm:<Rrick> Oh, I had problems on a Mac... Fixed with 8.6.1 ;-) Thank you Bill!!!
4:47 pm:<fcat> NQ chart
4:47 pm:<LS_Bill> you're welcome
4:47 pm:<fcat> just put it up
4:47 pm:<Rrick> You guys rock ;-)
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> lets not rehash the fcat syndrome any more til we've verified that the problem persists in 8.6.1 please
4:48 pm:<fcat> did something change in .1 that could fix it ?
4:48 pm:<LS_Bill> lets just say "I have a feeling"
4:49 pm:<EJM> Chad, didnt we already made this upup volume by uptick downtick a year ago when we select the preferences @ Breakdown by Up vs Down Tick ? what i sthe difference ?
4:49 pm:<fcat> hope it's a good feeling
4:49 pm:<fcat> ;-)
4:49 pm:<Daniel> fcat I use to have that problem all the time and I tracked it down to my session setup for the instrument begin set to 9:30-4:15 while I tried to monitor 24 hr charts or my data retention session for the instrument in question was in overide to not save any 1 minute data past the current session
4:49 pm:<LS_Bill> keeping my fingers crossed
4:49 pm:<fcat> k Bill
4:49 pm:<fcat> will update tonight
4:50 pm:<Daniel> this on all instruments fcat?
4:50 pm:<fcat> yes
4:50 pm:<Daniel> other then my two reasons above I dunno
4:50 pm:<Daniel> than*
4:51 pm:<fcat> session 0 and 31
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4:51 pm:<Daniel> 31 = 4:30-4:15
4:51 pm:<Daniel> ?
4:51 pm:<fcat> Bill...why do my 60m charts seem to have problems after holidays
4:52 pm:<LS_Bill> I'm glad you only have a problem with 60 minute ones
4:52 pm:<fcat> lol
4:52 pm:<Cliff> EJM, % Volume on Bid/Ask doesn't tell you anything about which way price is moving; in theory, all your volume can be on the bid with the bid continually moving up, which would of course be a sign of strength not of weakness
4:52 pm:<LS_Bill> holidays are problematic
4:52 pm:<fcat> yes dan
4:53 pm:<fcat> dan 4:30-4:15
4:53 pm:<LS_Bill> especially for futures, overnight trading
4:53 pm:<Daniel> fcat...I'll do an RDC into your computer would be the best way for me to be satisified that it's not a setting somewhere!
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> EJM, are you talking about the footprint/vp charts?
4:53 pm:<LS_Chad> I don't believe that's an option of VB indicator
4:53 pm:<fcat> yes Bill futures are the worst..but gets my equities now and then too
4:53 pm:<EJM> yes chad
4:53 pm:<fcat> it did yesterday
4:54 pm:<Daniel> VNC or RDC would be the fastest way I can fix it or see what the problem is.
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> ususually you can cure the ills by using "Delete Historical Data" and eliminating data for the holiday period
4:54 pm:<EJM> they want this outside VB? like an indicator ?
4:54 pm:<EJM> VP , Im sorry
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> yes EJM
4:54 pm:<LS_Chad> VB is an indicator
4:54 pm:<LS_Bill> cliff is asking for this in a VB indicator
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> http://www.linnsoft.com/tour/techind/vb.htm
4:55 pm:<LS_Chad> provides much of the FP / VP info in an indicator
4:55 pm:<EJM> they want this functionality on an indicator
4:55 pm:<fcat> I got this on quite a few today Bill
4:55 pm:<fcat> http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/01/16/UT_60min.png
4:55 pm:<EJM> EJM = mptrading CHAD !
4:55 pm:<EJM> lol
4:55 pm:<EJM> hi!
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> ah...yea, they just want that in VB...just like it is in FP
4:56 pm:<LS_Chad> hey
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> I'm currently working on expanding MP charts to reduce all limitations
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> of number of profiles/days per chart, and number of letters/tpos per profile
4:57 pm:<LS_Bill> yes, fcat, the traceback effect you see there can be eliminated using Delete Historical Data function
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> I've made good progress and hope to have this complete for 8.6.2
4:57 pm:<EJM> did you gave a look at the VAs bands and POC numbers on the VP charts for export ?
4:57 pm:<Daniel> Chad any progress on sitting pending lot size filter in a market depth window feature?
4:57 pm:<LS_Chad> (also for FP charts EJM)
4:57 pm:<EJM> ok
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> (so you can export as many bars as you want...no limitation of FP bars)
4:58 pm:<fcat> ok Bill...will remember that
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> Ed, you on 8.6.1 yet?
4:58 pm:<EJM> yep
4:58 pm:<EJM> did today
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> that should work on 8.6.1...displaying and exporting of historical VA & POC
4:58 pm:<LS_Chad> I think...let me double check
4:58 pm:<EJM> on Foot print chart ?
4:59 pm:<EJM> format ? like 3 range bars for example ?
4:59 pm:<EJM> when I do a right click I only see export on Fot print charts
5:01 pm:<Daniel> fcat post your main historical data retention settings and also highlight NQ inthe bottom list...I want to see if you have overide on or if it's different
5:01 pm:<Mike> hi all
5:01 pm:<LS_Chad> yea...doesn't look like I got that in the exported data....will do that
5:01 pm:<Daniel> Chad any progress on sitting pending lot size filter in a market depth window feature?
5:02 pm:<fcat> Bill...what is the best way to get the data back in without getting the retrace ?
5:02 pm:<LS_Chad> no
5:02 pm:<Daniel> ok
5:03 pm:<LS_Bill> there is a setting in Setup: Prefs: General titled "no holidays for overnight sessions"
5:04 pm:<LS_Bill> check that box and you will see the holiday period as white space. There will be no retrace effect since the chart has a place to put each bar
5:04 pm:<EJM> Maybe you can add a option on Min Max / cum Chg Delta, theb
5:04 pm:<EJM> then export from there
5:05 pm:<EJM> so all other export will be in synch with that same data..
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5:06 pm:<reza> HI all!
5:06 pm:<Mike> Bill I have chart set to last 2 days, but If irt left runnign chart will have 4 days or 5 or more, can somehow chart get intelligence to keep two days?
5:07 pm:<reza> CHAD you ratio calculation for horizontal tpo vs vertical is not correct
5:07 pm:<LS_Bill> we used to reload the chart at session open Mike, to trim the data
5:07 pm:<LS_Bill> but we eliminated that
5:07 pm:<Mike> well
5:07 pm:<LS_Bill> it was causing too much recalculation at the open when data flow is at the highest
5:07 pm:<Mike> I need indicator and all to use 2 days chart only! what can i do?
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> there is a new feature in 8.6.1 for "refresh chart"
5:08 pm:<Mike> fine midnight or something
5:08 pm:<Mike> I want it all automated
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> this force a reload of data, it trims the amount of data
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> I could add "reload all charts" a scheduled action
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> scheduled
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> so you could automate that
5:08 pm:<LS_Bill> maybe after the close?
5:09 pm:<Mike> good idea it seems
5:09 pm:<Mike> thank you
5:10 pm:<reza> Is Chad around?
5:10 pm:<LS_Bill> to reload a chart, ctrl-click the download button (option-click on mac) this does a "download" from the database, not from the server.
5:11 pm:<LS_Bill> that's the data download button at lower right corner of the chart
5:11 pm:<Mike> can we get pref to disable space bar dl?
5:11 pm:<LS_Bill> a reload frees all the data in the chart window, a then loads data from the database
5:11 pm:<LS_Bill> no, that's a nice feature
5:11 pm:<Mike> totally disagree
5:11 pm:<Mike> dangereosu feature to me
5:12 pm:<LS_Bill> don't want another preference setting
5:12 pm:<Mike> should allow user to diable that
5:13 pm:<LS_Bill> no one else has ever complained about it
5:13 pm:<Mike> i explained reasons in past
5:13 pm:<Mike> you try it someday
5:14 pm:<Mike> they will someday when they have that problem
5:14 pm:<Mike> take a 5 lot ES long
5:14 pm:<Mike> then have tick chart open for 2 days and IB feed! then accidently hit space bar!
5:14 pm:<Mike> have fun! you willnto be happy at all
5:14 pm:<Rrick> Is there a way to return a constant numeric value from a custom indicator? As in: if vol > 100 then 1 else 2. Returning a 1 or a 2...
5:14 pm:<fcat> lol Mike
5:14 pm:<Mike> happend to me fcat on mac and pc
5:15 pm:<fcat> :-(
5:15 pm:<Mike> forces a dl of data fcat :)
5:15 pm:<fcat> yep
5:15 pm:<LS_Chad> (VOL > 100) * 1 + (VOL <= 100) * 2
5:15 pm:<Mike> space bar biggest key also you ever hit it with a chart open? try it
5:16 pm:<Rrick> Oh, thats interesting Chad ;-)
5:16 pm:<Mike> glad he helped you rick :)
5:16 pm:<Mike> i forgot that "trick" or logic math really
5:17 pm:<Rrick> I've been trying to figure that one out for about a week now ;-)
5:17 pm:<Mike> i know :) ask away...
5:18 pm:<Rrick> Is there a reference somewhere about that Chad?
5:19 pm:<Rrick> A page in the docs? Or a web link?
5:20 pm:<LS_Bill> see this page Rrick, might help: http://www.linnsoft.com/qa/a/65.htm
5:21 pm:<LS_Bill> logical (true false) expressions always evaluate numerically to a zero or one
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5:22 pm:<Cliff> On VB generally, is anyone having any particular luck in getting reliable signals from it?
5:22 pm:<Rrick> Thank you Bill, I'll read it ;-)
5:22 pm:<LS_Chad> should be pretty solid on 8.6.1 Cliff
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> you done much testing on that with 8.6.1?
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> what do you mean by "reliable" exactly....do you mean good signals? or signals that don't change after reload or refresh?
5:23 pm:<Cliff> I'm sorry, I didn't mean that the indicator itself had been unreliable...
5:23 pm:<LS_Bill> Cliff is talking about trading success right?
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> ok
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> good
5:23 pm:<LS_Chad> touchy subject with me ;)
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> spent countless hours on this already
5:24 pm:<LS_Bill> proud father
5:24 pm:<Cliff> What I'm wondering is whether anyone's found it to be particularly useful as a trading guide/signal...
5:24 pm:<LS_Chad> experiment with it on range bars....look for it to turn positive (or approach zero closely from below) near the low of day...or a relative low...
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> and visa versa
5:25 pm:<Cliff> I've been looking at the Buy Volume %
5:25 pm:<LS_Chad> particularly after a number of consecutive negative bars
5:26 pm:<Cliff> and finding a lot below 50 in strong uptrends and above 50 in downtrends which is kind of surprising
5:26 pm:<Daniel> Vhad YM = 45 x 284 for TPO ratio
5:26 pm:<Rrick> Is VB = volume breakdown?
5:26 pm:<Cliff> however, I will try it in conjunction with range bars
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5:26 pm:<LS_Bill> yes Rrick
5:26 pm:<Cliff> which form of VB do you recommend using in conjunction with range bars
5:26 pm:<Daniel> Chad some instruments have trouble I see
5:27 pm:<Daniel> with the up/down /across ratio
5:27 pm:<Rrick> Is VB available to use with standard IRT 8.6.1?
5:27 pm:<Daniel> nope
5:27 pm:<Cliff> and, Chad, when you say low of the day, you mean price low, I assume, not VB low; is that correct?
5:27 pm:<LS_Chad> you must have MP turned on....
5:28 pm:<Daniel> need at least an MP feature enabled
5:28 pm:<LS_Bill> it's an optional feature bundled at present with Market Profile
5:28 pm:<LS_Chad> package deal with MP (for now)
5:28 pm:<LS_Chad> yes, price low Cliff
5:28 pm:<Daniel> "for now" what does that mean?
5:28 pm:<LS_Bill> it means at present
5:28 pm:<Rrick> Oh, no wonder I could never get it to work ;-(
5:28 pm:<LS_Chad> and I was just referring to the basic "delta" result (being negative or approaching zero)
5:29 pm:<Daniel> lolBVill..you know what I meant
5:29 pm:<LS_Bill> yea
5:29 pm:<Cliff> Thanks, Chad on the price low; what form of VB are you recommending?
5:29 pm:<fcat> hee hee
5:29 pm:<Daniel> thining of offereing it as a separat feature for this that donet want MP?
5:30 pm:<Daniel> man oh man...cheap keyboard
5:30 pm:<Daniel> are u thinking of offering it as a unique feature for thos that don't need MP?
5:30 pm:<Cliff> Chad, sounds like an interesting strategy; I'll be keeping an eye on it. Are you using it for both stocks and futures?
5:30 pm:<Daniel> sure would bring in a few extra deniros
5:31 pm:<LS_Chad> I don't use it per se Cliff....just something I've observed in testing that looks pretty good...really haven't tested it
5:31 pm:<EJM> hey Daniel, foun dany good info onto ZooPulse ?
5:31 pm:<LS_Bill> something like that yes
5:31 pm:<EJM> found any...
5:31 pm:<Mike> Bill save cahrts then save layout should fix pane resize issue right?
5:31 pm:<LS_Bill> yes
5:31 pm:<Daniel> nope...still waitng on Chad to see hwat he proposes...now that Esignal will charge for 5 deep MD the buggers
5:32 pm:<LS_Bill> 5 deep MD ?
5:32 pm:<Daniel> good
5:32 pm:<Daniel> yes the market depth
5:32 pm:<Daniel> that was for EJM..
5:32 pm:<Mike> lol it free with IB
5:33 pm:<Rrick> I would just like to see up vol and down vol on one bar like in Chads video red on black or black on red ;-)
5:33 pm:<EJM> well, they already charge for 5 depth now a days
5:33 pm:<Daniel> but Bill something like that makes me uncomfortable...hopefull as long as I have MP VB will be included?
5:33 pm:<Daniel> do they?
5:33 pm:<Daniel> hmmm
5:34 pm:<LS_Bill> nothing to worry about Daniel
5:34 pm:<EJM> 20 bucks , but IRT is not programmed to see it, even if you pay for it via esignal
5:34 pm:<Daniel> ok
5:34 pm:<Daniel> phew
5:34 pm:<Daniel> ELM ..right but it can be done
5:34 pm:<Daniel> EJM*
5:35 pm:<EJM> sure, which CHAD, BILL anything can be done. LOL
5:35 pm:<Daniel> IB sends it for free
5:35 pm:<LS_Bill> how do you see this deep MD being used in IRT?
5:35 pm:<EJM> not correct data via IB
5:35 pm:<Daniel> it is correct for sitting orders
5:35 pm:<fcat> should be able to programm MD in a L2 window
5:35 pm:<Daniel> has to be or it would be illegal
5:35 pm:<EJM> sure
5:36 pm:<Daniel> Bill..it;s the orders that are sitting 5 up and down on the marekt depth
5:36 pm:<EJM> but if depth is pulled and placed back you cant see via IB
5:36 pm:<LS_Bill> so you're saying that our eSignal level 2 doesn't work?
5:36 pm:<Daniel> above below the currently trading price
5:37 pm:<LS_Bill> IRT has a level 2 window, but I have not used it with eSignal for a looong time
5:37 pm:<EJM> IRT does not handle the info, so I was told by CHAD 1 year ago, since there is no use fo rit on any indicator/calcs as of now on IRT
5:37 pm:<fcat> think they are referring to eminis Bill
5:37 pm:<Mike> i'd liek to see depth for all feeds be neat
5:37 pm:<Mike> like a ladder thingie
5:37 pm:<Daniel> well for those that follow L2 on stocks that would be a good question but for futures onthe CME and eCbot it needs investigating
5:37 pm:<Daniel> yes eminins
5:38 pm:<fcat> thought so
5:38 pm:<Mike> right IB shows it in there TWS
5:38 pm:<fcat> right mike
5:38 pm:<Mike> be neat if IRT had such a thing
5:38 pm:<Daniel> right I see it in NT5
5:38 pm:<Daniel> yes and an ability to filter the lot size of the orders
5:38 pm:<Mike> yes
5:38 pm:<Mike> good
5:39 pm:<Daniel> EJM...how would that be done?
5:39 pm:<Mike> a neat new window ladder you might like?
5:39 pm:<fcat> some other platforms do as well...show market depth for eminis in L2 window
5:39 pm:<Daniel> have you giaven it some thought?
5:39 pm:<Daniel> given*
5:40 pm:<Daniel> how would IRT know if an order sitting let's say above the current price came from one trader with size?
5:40 pm:<EJM> the good way to see is th eway TT displays it, but Im not sure if just d
5:40 pm:<EJM> isplaying the data infringes on their pattent
5:40 pm:<Mike> there ladder thing?
5:40 pm:<LS_Bill> the "dome"
5:40 pm:<Daniel> the size filter would only be applied to ALL orders sitting there..correct?
5:41 pm:<Daniel> right
5:41 pm:<EJM> the most important for me would be a way to have access to that data on background
5:41 pm:<Daniel> dome
5:41 pm:<Daniel> right
5:41 pm:<Mike> fine do it as level 2
5:41 pm:<fcat> Bill is it difficult to program Emini depth into the existing L2 window ?
5:41 pm:<Mike> though dome is neater
5:41 pm:<Mike> wonder if you could ask TT to make a dome type thing Bill?
5:41 pm:<Mike> give them credit
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> I think we could map the data into our existing L2 display
5:42 pm:<fcat> would be a good use of the L2 window since nobody ever uses it except me ;-)
5:42 pm:<Daniel> Mike are u mad!?
5:42 pm:<Daniel> ask TT nothing...they will want $$$
5:42 pm:<Daniel> lol
5:42 pm:<LS_Bill> TT wants $$$
5:43 pm:<Mike> really
5:43 pm:<Mike> ok forget that
5:43 pm:<Daniel> TT can only patent it if it's something we can use to plave trades on
5:43 pm:<LS_Bill> NT users pay per transaction to use the Dome in NT
5:43 pm:<Daniel> place*
5:43 pm:<Daniel> right
5:43 pm:<fcat> how does IB get away with the dome anyhow ?
5:43 pm:<Daniel> but just to display the data there should be no issue
5:43 pm:<Daniel> dunno
5:43 pm:<fcat> sorry...off topic a little
5:43 pm:<Daniel> maybe they pay
5:44 pm:<Daniel> maybe they settled out of court
5:44 pm:<fcat> lame dome on IB but it works
5:44 pm:<LS_Bill> if you click to place a trade, however you do it, you must pay, that's how I understand it
5:44 pm:<Daniel> y
5:44 pm:<Daniel> yes
5:44 pm:<Daniel> Bill
5:44 pm:<fcat> hmm
5:44 pm:<Daniel> well not exactly
5:44 pm:<Daniel> Bill
5:44 pm:<fcat> IB must pay a royalty fee
5:44 pm:<EJM> yes, the purpose would be to analyse depth data and not place orders via the display
5:44 pm:<fcat> suprised they haven't passed it on
5:45 pm:<LS_Bill> if you click on a "dome" to place a trade, is what I meant
5:45 pm:<Daniel> if the prices remain "static" and the market moved up and down and you can trade on it it...you pay...but...
5:45 pm:<Mike> ok a dmoe idea with no place trade ability be neat
5:45 pm:<Daniel> but if the prices move up and down=no pay
5:45 pm:<EJM> static i suseless, unless my chair moves up and down as the makrket changes, LOL
5:45 pm:<Daniel> so it's tough to trade the new dynamic dome
5:46 pm:<Daniel> dynamic u mena
5:46 pm:<fcat> EJM..I think you're on to something...
5:46 pm:<LS_Bill> I going to patent a chair that moves up and down with the market, and retire from the software business ;-)
5:46 pm:<Daniel> the static dome works like a chart
5:46 pm:<EJM> preice is static, depth goes up and down
5:47 pm:<Daniel> price level remains static but market moves up and down
5:47 pm:<fcat> might as well make it chop sideways while you are at it Bill
5:47 pm:<Daniel> so u can place trades ahead ro behind the last price
5:47 pm:<LS_Bill> ;-)
5:47 pm:<EJM> Im on that project Bill, as long as I can know with 50 ms advance if chair will go up or down
5:47 pm:<Daniel> but have the damn price level moving up/down is crazy
5:47 pm:<Daniel> lolBIll
5:48 pm:<EJM> price needs to be fixed, otherwise is useless IMHO
5:48 pm:<Daniel> which price?
5:48 pm:<EJM> instrument price, like a TT dome screen
5:48 pm:<Daniel> right
5:49 pm:<LS_Chad> actually...we'd just need to auto-move the cursor up&down w/ the market
5:49 pm:<Daniel> ok so....are we going to look into the idea of a MD window?
5:49 pm:<Daniel> with size filter?
5:49 pm:<Mike> be neat thing to have a ladder type thing with depth
5:49 pm:<EJM> like Trade Maven CHAD? that solution is terrible..
5:50 pm:<Daniel> basically all you wouldneed to do is update the T&S window
5:50 pm:<LS_Chad> I was joking
5:50 pm:<EJM> a trader sees a price on a screen , not a cursr
5:50 pm:<EJM> lol
5:50 pm:<Daniel> LOLOL
5:50 pm:<LS_Chad> not really on my radar right now Dan...but we'll see
5:50 pm:<Daniel> "tradar"
5:50 pm:<LS_Chad> if Bill can make it into the L2 window...I'll enhance it from there
5:51 pm:<subq> MD window with size?
5:51 pm:<Mike> what is on your folsk radars please?
5:51 pm:<fcat> lol...tradar
5:51 pm:<Mike> Bill still no Jerry Sy of Autotrader :(
5:51 pm:<subq> market delta?
5:51 pm:<LS_Chad> depth
5:51 pm:<Mike> sub when we get search on site?
5:51 pm:<subq> supposedly search set the programmer back a bit
5:51 pm:<Mike> like search for chart with name woodie
5:51 pm:<subq> since he has to write it from scratch
5:51 pm:<subq> now that it shows comments
5:52 pm:<subq> he has to redo it so it can search comments too
5:52 pm:<EJM> Good night All..
5:52 pm:<LS_Bill> how about showing submitted comments subq, that would be really nice
5:52 pm:<LS_Bill> you have that done?
5:52 pm:<LS_Chad> that's done
5:52 pm:<LS_Bill> great
5:52 pm:<Daniel> you know what I've seen recently that IRT aboslutely needs that would bring in alot more users?
5:52 pm:<subq> yeah submitted comments are now in
5:52 pm:<Mike> i see comments
5:52 pm:<subq> mike he will get the search working soon now
5:52 pm:<Mike> great my friend
5:53 pm:<subq> the big thing we were waiting on was unique user for "more charts from this user"
5:53 pm:<subq> which bill got done
5:53 pm:<subq> then we got the comments in
5:53 pm:<subq> so next is search
5:53 pm:<Mike> great
5:53 pm:<subq> comments are really good
5:53 pm:<Mike> but search on charts from user does not get old stuff?
5:53 pm:<subq> not sure how we did without them :)
5:53 pm:<Mike> as long as comments are nto bad a few were lol
5:53 pm:<subq> no
5:54 pm:<subq> old stuff probably won't have a user classification
5:54 pm:<subq> or anyone submitting with old versions
5:54 pm:<Mike> Bill chart sharing from macs when???
5:54 pm:<LS_Bill> tell me daniel
5:54 pm:<Daniel> nothing, but I'm workign on it! ;-)
5:54 pm:<fcat> personally...I would like to see 1m charts that display data for more than 1 session
5:54 pm:<LS_Bill> I took the bait
5:54 pm:<fcat> sorry Bill.....
5:54 pm:<fcat> couldn't resist
5:54 pm:<subq> if you find any with bad comments just let me know
5:54 pm:<subq> i can kill them
5:55 pm:<Daniel> man it's so full I can't imagine what else besides what we're discussing today
5:55 pm:<fcat> I was on the edge of my chair Dan ;-)
5:55 pm:<Mike> user nhad problems is all sub
5:55 pm:<LS_Bill> give me a link to a chart w/ a comment
5:55 pm:<subq> i imagine everyone will be upgrading to 8.6.1 anyway, so many improvements
5:55 pm:<subq> and 8.6.1 has unique users in it
5:55 pm:<Mike> look today Bill many there
5:55 pm:<subq> http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/01/16/CandleChart
5:55 pm:<Daniel> I've turn a few TS traders on to IRT and they are the only competition in my opinion
5:55 pm:<Mike> IRT needs playback yet Dan that it
5:55 pm:<subq> User Comment: Coloring VB in Next to Last Panel
5:56 pm:<Daniel> playback isn't a must have
5:56 pm:<LS_Bill> none of the recent uploads have them
5:56 pm:<Mike> soem liek it
5:56 pm:<subq> those people aren't putting comments in
5:56 pm:<Mike> yesBill comments were there i get you link
5:56 pm:<Mike> will mac get chart sharing soon?>
5:56 pm:<subq> like i have mine set to prompt for comment
5:57 pm:<fcat> I got a ? for mac/IB users
5:57 pm:<subq> http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/01/16/TICK_1t_B
5:57 pm:<subq> i put a comment on that one
5:57 pm:<fcat> mike you on mac/IB right ?
5:57 pm:<LS_Bill> mac coming soon I hope
5:57 pm:<subq> but not on this one
5:57 pm:<subq> http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/01/16/TICK_1t_B_2
5:57 pm:<Mike> me mac and mytrack
5:57 pm:<Mike> pc and ib
5:57 pm:<subq> bill is there any hope for chart sharing on mac?
5:57 pm:<subq> had quite a few people ask me that
5:57 pm:<LS_Bill> mac coming soon I hope
5:58 pm:<subq> oh that was in regards to chart sharing...ok
5:58 pm:<subq> duh
5:58 pm:<Mike> http://www.charthub.com/images/2007/01/16/ER
5:58 pm:<subq> sorry
5:58 pm:<Mike> ther eis comment Bill
5:58 pm:<Mike> user had a problem
5:58 pm:<subq> heh
5:58 pm:<fcat> do you still have to boot TWS from terminal on OSX ?
5:58 pm:<Daniel> Bill...TS easy language translator would be a major under taking but well worththe effort.
5:58 pm:<subq> he needed to submit his definition too
5:58 pm:<LS_Bill> ugh
5:58 pm:<Mike> fcat no
5:58 pm:<Mike> not for long time
5:58 pm:<fcat> lol
5:58 pm:<fcat> good was curious
5:59 pm:<Mike> hey i ahd commnet problem
5:59 pm:<LS_Chad> "major undertaking" is an understatement
5:59 pm:<Mike> I hit cancel and it still uplaoded chart!
5:59 pm:<subq> with comment and chart definition makes a great tech support tool, didnt even think about that
5:59 pm:<LS_Chad> and it would be a moving target
5:59 pm:<Mike> cancel shoudl canel the action totally please
5:59 pm:<fcat> last time I launched it from the OSX you had to
5:59 pm:<LS_Bill> RTL is not a "programmer language" in the same way EL is
5:59 pm:<LS_Chad> and probably alot that wouldn't be "convertible"
5:59 pm:<Mike> fcat no longer at all a nice osx installer also fcat now for long time
5:59 pm:<fcat> cool
5:59 pm:<Daniel> ah
6 pm:<subq> Daniel arent you a mac user? :)
6 pm:<Daniel> both
6 pm:<Daniel> PC and Mac
6 pm:<LS_Bill> osx installs are so easy now you don't need one! all you do is drag and drop one icon, install done
6 pm:<LS_Bill> it's really cool
6 pm:<fcat> plan on returning to mac for IRT/IB/DTNiq